From: | Robert Thomas <Strangefate@*****.NET> |
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Subject: | Defense of: Frustration Deck |
Date: | Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:49:50 -0400 |
Cherry Bomb x2
Jade x2
Kracker Jack x2
Mugsy x2
Reaper x2
Red Widow x2
Roadrash x2
Shasta x2
Thash x2
Tinkerbell x2
Wishbone x2
I don't like Roadrash very much. He is too expensive if you're not going
to be using drones with him, (i.e. a rigger deck). My advice would be to
replace both Roadrashes with Ajaxs. I'm also not too fond of wishbone,
perhaps Hawkwind would be more appropriate, she's cheaper, has more
skills, and has Biotech. Otherwise I would just like to ask why you have
so much duplication?
I already have Cherry Bomb, and Tinkerbell, that handles all of his
important skills. As for the use of Roadrash, Look again. There are 6
drones in the deck, which is more than enough reason to use him.
Wishbone is tougher than Hawkwind, therefore can take more damage. As
for duplicaion, that is simple. Opponents use Bar Fights and Wanteds.
Enough said.
GEAR (18)
Bulldog Van x2
Defiance Shotgun x2
Fixed-Fire Cannons x2
Hellblast
Hunter Drone x2
Protective Spirit x2
Robo-Doc x2
Shriek 1000 x2
Sleep
Vindicator Minigun x2
I would advise you to take out most of the drones. The Shriek - 1000s
can be replaced with the more versitile and easier to use Wild Goose
Chase, and the Robo-Docs are also only nessecary without any other
source of healing. Try Hawkwind(s)
Ah, you have missed the point of the Shriek 1000's. You cannot LOTI
them, but you can the WGC. I already had the riggers in, so the
Robo-Docs made more sense. Roadrash lets you pay 1 nuyen less for
drones, he is worth it. Tinkerbell has Technical skill, so she is worth
it.
Specials/Stingers (18)
Abducted! x2
Deja Vu x2
Cover Up x2
Intimidation x2
Luck O' The Irish x2
Some Things Never Change x2
The Big Break x2
Whoops! x2
Wild Goose Chase x2
Where are your GAQs? I don't like Cover Up very much either, it only has
one very limited use, better to play with Loaded Dice and Mob War, which
is a great way of preventing your opponent from getting to your
objective. The Big Break is good, as it is versitile and usefull.
GAQs I have found are too limited. Stopping just one runner is generally
not enough, except in rare occasions. Cover Up rarely has anyone LOTI
(why waste it on this?) it and it gaurantees that the objective is safe
for one round. You are seriously betting on having a Loaded dice
whenever the Mob War objective comes up? I take chances, but I would
never take that one.
Challenges (10)
Chomps 2000 Guard Dog x2
Double Jeapoardy x2
Hunting Gargoyle x2
Maglocks x2
Security Consultant x2
Double the number of challenges. Try not to repeate, go up to 20, and go
for a wide range of Sleaze requirements. I can get through even the
toughest combination of these with a Foxy Roxy, a Maglock Passkey, and a
Shasta
Just to be stopped by a Shriek before you get started, or a Wild Goose
Chase anytime before you take the objective. (Since you count on having
the right cards in your play, why shouldn't I).
Locations (1)
Genetics Lab
I don't see why. You have 10 runners with special abilities that the Lab
won't duplicate, and the rest are too expensive to risk.
Having runners just to take damage. That way it alleviates some of the
risk for me. Also, they make good blockers for objectives with no
challenges on them (Send in the clone!). Besides, the likelyhood that it
will come into play regularly is slim. If it comes into play, good. if
not, life goes on.
Contacts (1)
Squatter
Can't go wrong with him!
Objectives (7)
Amazonian Hunt
Cake Walk
Crossfire x2
Nosferatu Den
Operation Cottonmouth
Sucker Run
The Amazonian hunt eliminates your Maglocks, and you can get through the
rest on Cake Walk with one social and one sorcery OR conjuring.
Crossfire is expensive, and generally not worth it, and Nosferatu Den
adds insult to the injury of losing your best runners to Genetics Lab.
Sucker Run is good, though. If your goal is to keep people from
objectives no matter the cause, where's your King of the Hill?
Either person can defend King of the Hill multiple times. No advantage
there. Nosferatu Den gives most people pause, and they will go after
another objective first. Cake Walk is a low rep challenge that I can let
go if need be to protect other objectives instead.
There are not enough ways to stop a shadowrun, though, there never can
be. The ones there are are weak, unreliable, and don't even last long.
I'm sorry, but you NEED more challenges, you may be able to hold your
opponents decks off for a little while, if you're lucky, but they can
hold you off too, and by that time, they'll have a team that can waltz
through your challenges, and give them a kiss good night.
Norman McLeod, easier said than done. I have used this deck against more
than 7 different decks, and muliple times against each deck. If
everything goes perfect, yes you can sleaze through to an objective. As
you know, things do not go prefectly. The games I have lost have always
been close ones, which says to me that you idea that you could easily
beat this deck is incorrect. It would be nip and tuck all the way, I can
almost fully assure you.
Our styles seem vastly different, and I would think that us playing each
other would be a sight to see.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you commenting. But from the comments
that I have seen you post on several decks that people have posted you
seem to think that there is only one answer. That answer is the one you
see, and is only one you see.