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Message no. 1
From: "Abadia, Teos" <Teos.Abadia@****.COM>
Subject: FW: FASA on Riots and tapped Runners in the safehouse,
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:37:32 -0500
Laying to rest several of the topics we have been kicking around. Good
to see a few replies come in from FASA! Interesting ruling on Guard,
since it violates the definition of "present". Also, the answer on Fuchi
makes game sense, and should please all of us that felt it was too
powerful. Lastly, it looks like our discussion _is_ of interest to them,
as they have been following the "present" issue.

Teos.

> ----------
> From: FASACorp2[SMTP:FASACorp2@***.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 1:10 AM
> To: Abadia, Teos
> Subject: Re: FW: Riots and tapped Runners in the safehouse
>
> In a message dated 12/10/97 1:04:18 PM, you wrote:
>
> <<We seem to have a lot of questions on the list regarding turned
> runners
> and the definition of present. Could you expand on what present means
> and answer some of my questions as well as the ones in the e-mail I
> quoted?
>
> My questions:
>
> Can a turned runner use a Wanted card to attack an opponent's runner?
> Absolutely not. That's addressed on the Wanted card: "?opponents
> may turn one
> Runner to attack target Runner".
> Can a turned runner be the target of a Wanted!/Riots/Drive By card?
> Yes. Why not?
> If my Knuckles (has Guard) is turned, can he still use his guard
> ability
> on one of my runners affected by a Riots, Wanted!, Drive By?
> Same question for Biotech.
> No, he's turned. The rules are very clear on this point: A
> Runner using Guard
> during a shadowrun need not turn to to use the trait; at all other
> times he is
> required to turn." The same rule applies to Biotech.
>
> I do think guard and biotech should be able to be used on turned
> runners
> in the safehouse, since the abilities are rather weak if the turned
> runner is not "present" with the unturned runner that has biotech.
> If the turned Runner is present in the safehouse, there's no
> reason an
> unturned Runner would be prevented from using Biotech or Guard to aid
> the
> turned, present Runner.
>
> Fuchi: does this count as a shadowrun for the player, or for the
> deckers. That is, can I send my deckers to Fuchi and my other runners
> to a shadowrun in the same combat turn?
>
> No. A visit to Fuchi takes the place of a shadowrun for that
> turn. Once you
> visit Fuchi, you essentially "sacrifice" your Shadowrun Phase.
>
> Now, concerning present: I recently saw an interesting re-wording of
> "present"
> on the SRCARD list. I think it was posted by Matt Breton (sp?). It's a
> good
> working definition that we may hone further (my thanks to him for
> posting it).
>
> 1) On a shadowrun. All Runners and revealed Challenges are considered
> present to each other.
>
> 2) In Runner-on-Runner combat. All attacking and defending Runners on
> both sides are present with each other.
> Note: I would add to this that no other Runners are present in
> this
> situation. Only the combatants are present. It's implied already, but
> I want
> it to be clear.
>
> 3) At a Location or Contact. Multiple Runners who visit the same
> Location are present with each other. Runners are present at the last
> Location or Contact they visit on that turn. Runners "return" from
> the
> Location during their owner's next Refresh phase (ie, when the Runners
> unturn).
>
> 4) In the safehouse. This includes all turned and unturned Runners
> not
> present elsewhere.
>
> I hope all of the above helps. If not, we'll try to do more.
>
> Jim N.
>
>
>

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