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Message no. 1
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:49:12 -0800
Got another message from FASA that I thought you guys might wanta
alook at.

I'm curious to see the reactions over Torgo's changes.

I'm flattered that the Loki card ranks so close to a Torgo
counterpart. Not to mention, Loki being an uncommon means he'll be
easier to pack in a deck and more likely to pull out in game play. :o)

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---FASACorp2@***.com wrote:
>
> Thanks (as always) for the feedback Loki (you trickster you!hehehe).
> The Loki elf mafiA runner is an Uncommon card and Ill give you all
his stats
> below...
>
> Loki, Mafia Runner, 5¥. Elf runner 3/2. 1¥: Turn Loki to inflict 3
(AP)
> damage to a target turned Troll Runner.
>
> Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
few people
> out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability will be
read as
> follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all elf Runner's in
play."
> This was the original way his ability worked but it got changed at
the last
> minute (grrrr). I thought it would be better if it were changed back
to the
> original way in the 2nd run set. (much cheering and screaming from
the elf
> players). LOL!
> You'll notice Loki that your runner card is the closet thing to
Torgo that the
> elfs can get! Just get 3 in play and you can even take out Torgo
himself!
> hehehe. Ciao!
>
> Mike "Skuzzy" Nielsen

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Message no. 2
From: Phil Jaros <chakan@****.PYROTECHNICS.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:49:58 -0600
>Got another message from FASA that I thought you guys might wanta
>alook at.
>
>I'm curious to see the reactions over Torgo's changes.

Thanks for the info, and as usual I have a comment. ;)

>>Thanks (as always) for the feedback Loki (you trickster you!hehehe).
>>The Loki elf mafiA runner is an Uncommon card and Ill give you all
>>his stats below...
>>
>>Loki, Mafia Runner, 5¥. Elf runner 3/2. 1¥: Turn Loki to inflict (AP)
>>damage to a target turned Troll Runner.

Nifty card! Not a game breaer, but it certainly could be useful.
Besides, since it is going to be an uncommon, you should have plenty
of opertunities to say "Heh that card is my Runner. You can't use
him against me." ;)

>>Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
>>few people out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability
>>will be read as follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
>>elf Runner's in play."

Umm, is it just me is that just a bit more powerful? Barring equipment
this power will kill all elfs ohter then Dodger, Drake and Red Widow.
I hope that you atleast still have to pay for the power (it just
said turn). Personally, I think this new poer is far superior to
the old one. Then again I'll be playing humans in a tournament, so
I don't really care. ;)



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Message no. 3
From: Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:18:11 -0500
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Loki wrote:
> > Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
> few people
> > out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability will be
> read as
> > follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all elf Runner's in
> play."
> > This was the original way his ability worked but it got changed at
> the last
> > minute (grrrr). I thought it would be better if it were changed back
> to the
> > original way in the 2nd run set. (much cheering and screaming from
> the elf
> > players). LOL!

HAHAHA!! This new Torgo is *far* more brutal! All elves at 3 health or
less are annihilated by the rampaging Torgo and elves 4-6 health are
successfully neutralized. (Unless Torgo waits a turn, goes rampaging at
the end of the previous player's turn, unturns, then turns again...then
the 4-6 elves are dead as well.) Unless, of course, there's a nuyen cost
to fund Torgo's berzerk anti-elf rage, then things might get a little
tricky. Guess we shall assume a play cards as last printing rule?

Loki is nifty. Something tells me I'll start seeing elf vs. troll wars
far worse than anything in the cal free state.

wanting more Lofwyr cards...
-me.
bladehnt@*********.net
Message no. 4
From: SaraBolton <pin12962@*******.PING.BE>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:24:51 GMT
>>>Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
>>>few people out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability
>>>will be read as follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
>>>elf Runner's in play."
>
>Umm, is it just me is that just a bit more powerful? Barring equipment
>this power will kill all elfs ohter then Dodger, Drake and Red Widow.
>I hope that you atleast still have to pay for the power (it just
>said turn). Personally, I think this new poer is far superior to
>the old one. Then again I'll be playing humans in a tournament, so
>I don't really care. ;)

More powerful?
Well, you can no longer kill more than one elf a turn,can use "stim patch"
or guard special trait to protect your targeted elf,.....I really don't
think Torgo is more powerful,but he is again a damn good runner.

Schmitt Vincent.
Message no. 5
From: Dustin Du Cane <dustin@********.COM.PL>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:37:36 +0100
>>>,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
>>>elf Runner's in play."
>
>Umm, is it just me is that just a bit more powerful? Barring
equipment
>this power will kill all elfs ohter then Dodger, Drake and Red Widow.
>I hope that you atleast still have to pay for the power (it just
>said turn). Personally, I think this new poer is far superior to
>the old one. Then again I'll be playing humans in a tournament, so
>I don't really care. ;)

More powerful?
Well, you can no longer kill more than one elf a turn,can use "stim
patch"
or guard special trait to protect your targeted elf,.....I really
don't
think Torgo is more powerful,but he is again a damn good runner.

Schmitt Vincent.
-------------
Definitely more powerful. As stated, most elves are pretty weak and
Torgo will kill them anyway with 3 points of damage. And he's doing
the damage for free. Turn after turn of elf bashing.

Dustin
Message no. 6
From: Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 05:01:12 -0500
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Dustin Du Cane wrote:
> >>>,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
> >>>elf Runner's in play."
<snip>
> Definitely more powerful. As stated, most elves are pretty weak and
> Torgo will kill them anyway with 3 points of damage. And he's doing
> the damage for free. Turn after turn of elf bashing.

Though still awe-inspiring, it *does* allow elf players a little room to
save some of their elves and hopefully knock off Torgo with a Loki hit
squad. Woe to the troll player if the elf player gets lucky and gets out
a bunch of the Loki hit squad and a Policlub Ganger hating trolls...

It's balanced...sort of...in an arms-race kinda way...

poor trolls gettin' picked on by the mafia...
-me.
bladehnt@*********.net
Message no. 7
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:13:57 -0800
> >>Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
> >>few people out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability
> >>will be read as follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
> >>elf Runner's in play."

> Umm, is it just me is that just a bit more powerful? Barring equipment
> this power will kill all elfs ohter then Dodger, Drake and Red Widow.
> I hope that you atleast still have to pay for the power (it just
> said turn). Personally, I think this new poer is far superior to
> the old one. Then again I'll be playing humans in a tournament, so
> I don't really care. ;)

Superior in a different sort of way. It means nearly all elves go
rolling -- in a multi-player game, this is just going to tick everyone
off against Torgo's player. Imagine the fury of the shaman deck player
who has three Shades in play and just drew the first Spirits to play on
them? Or the Rigger player who's been forced to make Tinkerbell do
double duty? And, of course, the Torgo player can't really safeguard
his own elves, either.

H'm. Maybe in there's gonna be another Night of Rage in the SR universe
soon?


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Message no. 8
From: Jon Palmer <jmp225@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:22:25 -0500
>>>>Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
>>>>few people out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability
>>>>will be read as follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
>>>>elf Runner's in play."
>>
>>Umm, is it just me is that just a bit more powerful? Barring equipment
>>this power will kill all elfs ohter then Dodger, Drake and Red Widow.
>>I hope that you atleast still have to pay for the power (it just
>>said turn). Personally, I think this new poer is far superior to
>>the old one. Then again I'll be playing humans in a tournament, so
>>I don't really care. ;)

Damn, ALL elf runners? As a suggestion (for those of you who have some
influence over the game) a. Torgo's controller should have to pay ¥ = to=
tal
number of elves in play, or b. reduce it to 2 damage, or c. make it non-AP.

Jon Palmer
Message no. 9
From: ">>>>> Axlrose - ... <<<<<" <axlrose@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:30:10 -0500
At 12:49 AM 2/11/98 -0600, someone wrote:

>Loki, Mafia Runner, 5¥. Elf runner 3/2. 1¥: Turn Loki to inflict (AP)
>damage to a target turned Troll Runner.

>Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
>few people out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability
>will be read as follows, "Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all
>elf Runner's in play."

The visuals imagined when Lord Torgo pounds Loki the Elven runner into=
pulp...

"Shoot *bash* me *crunch* will *pulp* you!!! *stomp*"

>>>>>Axlrose - troll samurai grinning from horn to
horn...<<<<<
Message no. 10
From: Dennis Shea <LordBurger@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:09:02 EST
Lord Torgo is fine how he is now, he has a costly upkeep, and an equipt
Shwaark, tin man, or a stomper can smash him in a bar fight/wanted. His trash
elf ability is strong, but the ability need not be changed. Elves are
powerfull, but there are many ways around torgo. Abduct him if he hits the
table, and put out your own. Beat up your opponents rockers so the torgo
upkeep kills him. Torgo = Powerfull, but he is far from broken, (broken = the
gay magic term for powerful card). Keep him how he is, and if you make his
ability to turn to deal 3 AP to all Elf Runners, then his ability is cheaper
to use, and most elves aren't even that tough.

This is my Proposal to keep The Lord The way he is, long live the original
build smasher, Elf destroyer himself!!!

See ya on dA Run

Dennis Shea
"TORGO-SMACKS-AND-CHEESE-PHATTY-BEATDOWN"
Message no. 11
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:02:05 -0800
Loki wrote:

> I'm flattered that the Loki card ranks so close to a Torgo
> counterpart. Not to mention, Loki being an uncommon means he'll be
> easier to pack in a deck and more likely to pull out in game play. :o)

Umm, Loki.. he's (you're?) *only* a 3/2.

Did you notice you don't have any skills either? ;) You'd figure being
list-admin you'd at least have Leadership or Social or something...


-Matt

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Message no. 12
From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:09:23 -0500
Perhaps Torgo would best be solved with other changes, an inability to use
equipment perhaps, or make him ANTISOCIAL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Shea <LordBurger@***.COM>
To: SRCARD@********.ITRIBE.NET <SRCARD@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift


>Lord Torgo is fine how he is now, he has a costly upkeep, and an equipt
>Shwaark, tin man, or a stomper can smash him in a bar fight/wanted. His
trash
>elf ability is strong, but the ability need not be changed. Elves are
>powerfull, but there are many ways around torgo. Abduct him if he hits the
>table, and put out your own. Beat up your opponents rockers so the torgo
>upkeep kills him. Torgo = Powerfull, but he is far from broken, (broken =
the
>gay magic term for powerful card). Keep him how he is, and if you make his
>ability to turn to deal 3 AP to all Elf Runners, then his ability is
cheaper
>to use, and most elves aren't even that tough.
>
>This is my Proposal to keep The Lord The way he is, long live the original
>build smasher, Elf destroyer himself!!!
>
>See ya on dA Run
>
>Dennis Shea
>"TORGO-SMACKS-AND-CHEESE-PHATTY-BEATDOWN"
>
Message no. 13
From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:03:20 -0500
I thin the new version of Torgo is far less powerfull, perhaps not even
worth his upkeep. Most players have not considered the fact that this new
wussy Torgo would destroy their own elves as well, nad for anyone who tries
to play a balanced deck with lots of variety will be very dissapointed to
have take Torgo out of their decks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.net>
To: SRCARD@********.ITRIBE.NET <SRCARD@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift


>On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Loki wrote:
>> > Lord Torgo is being tweaked for the 2nd run. This could interest a
>> few people
>> > out there (maybe one or two, hehehe). Torgo's new ability will be
>> read as
>> > follows,"Turn Torgo to inflict 3 (AP) damage on all elf Runner's in
>> play."
>> > This was the original way his ability worked but it got changed at
>> the last
>> > minute (grrrr). I thought it would be better if it were changed back
>> to the
>> > original way in the 2nd run set. (much cheering and screaming from
>> the elf
>> > players). LOL!
>
>HAHAHA!! This new Torgo is *far* more brutal! All elves at 3 health or
>less are annihilated by the rampaging Torgo and elves 4-6 health are
>successfully neutralized. (Unless Torgo waits a turn, goes rampaging at
>the end of the previous player's turn, unturns, then turns again...then
>the 4-6 elves are dead as well.) Unless, of course, there's a nuyen cost
>to fund Torgo's berzerk anti-elf rage, then things might get a little
>tricky. Guess we shall assume a play cards as last printing rule?
>
>Loki is nifty. Something tells me I'll start seeing elf vs. troll wars
>far worse than anything in the cal free state.
>
>wanting more Lofwyr cards...
>-me.
>bladehnt@*********.net
>
Message no. 14
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:27:47 -0500
At 10:37 AM 2/11/98 +0100, Dustin Du Cane wrote these timeless words:

>Definitely more powerful. As stated, most elves are pretty weak and
>Torgo will kill them anyway with 3 points of damage. And he's doing
>the damage for free. Turn after turn of elf bashing.
>
>Dustin
>
One thing to keep in mind here about elves though... Chances are, since
the Ancients are one of the Gangs in Underworld, is that there will be a
few more decent sized elves out there...

Also, they didn;t say whether or not the ability was free... I rather
doubt it :]

Bull
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Message no. 15
From: Phil Jaros <chakan@****.PYROTECHNICS.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:21:47 -0600
>I thin the new version of Torgo is far less powerfull, perhaps not even
>worth his upkeep. Most players have not considered the fact that this new
>wussy Torgo would destroy their own elves as well, nad for anyone who tries
>to play a balanced deck with lots of variety will be very dissapointed to
>have take Torgo out of their decks.

Well I've made and played against a bunch of differant decks, and rarely
does Lord Torgo hang out with elves. Sure some people feel the need to
put 4 Glitzs in every deck, but for the most part most balanced decks
would not feature a Lord Torgo with a bunch of elve deckers.

In fact I think most balance decks tend to be kind of weak. I personally
like to specialize in something.



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Message no. 16
From: Phil Jaros <chakan@****.PYROTECHNICS.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:32:51 -0600
Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.net> wrote:
>Though still awe-inspiring, it *does* allow elf players a little room to
>save some of their elves and hopefully knock off Torgo with a Loki hit
>squad. Woe to the troll player if the elf player gets lucky and gets out
>a bunch of the Loki hit squad and a Policlub Ganger hating trolls...
>
>It's balanced...sort of...in an arms-race kinda way...

Hmmm, I really don't think it is balanced (it is close though). After all,
one Torgo can kill all Loki's and it takes 3 Loki's to take out one Torgo
(or two Loki's if you have a Humanis Policlub ganger out for trolls - and both
Loki's are untapped when Lord Torgo shows up). Sure overall costs are about
the same but consider this it is really easy to kill off a Loki or two before
you put out your Lord Torgo. However, I really think that if you force a
player to fill 3-4 deck slots with a 3/2 runner with no skills and only a very
specialized special ability, you are ahead of the game.


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Message no. 17
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:39:03 -0800
---Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET> wrote:
>
> Perhaps Torgo would best be solved with other changes, an inability
to use
> equipment perhaps, or make him ANTISOCIAL.

Anti-Social wouldn't fit as his description in SR Companion is that of
a rather charismatic gang leader (among trolls anyways).

One other thing, could you please place your replies at the bottom of
the post you're quoting. It makes following threads easier. This and
other netiquette is covered in the SRCard FAQ.

Thanx!

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Message no. 18
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:46:31 -0800
---Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM> wrote:
>
> Loki wrote:
>
> > I'm flattered that the Loki card ranks so close to a Torgo
> > counterpart. Not to mention, Loki being an uncommon means he'll be
> > easier to pack in a deck and more likely to pull out in game play.
:o)
>
> Umm, Loki.. he's (you're?) *only* a 3/2.

I was talking about the special and not the big brute stats. BTW a 3/2
ain't all that bad for elvish stats. :oP

> Did you notice you don't have any skills either? ;) You'd figure
being
> list-admin you'd at least have Leadership or Social or something...

OK, so the didn't list my/his skills. I'm sure they'll give me at
least firearms of melee as any standard runner has, or even athletics
or stealth as they're easy to come by.

I'll forgive your picking on the admin, as I figure it's just the
jealousy taking Matb. ;o)

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Message no. 19
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:58:27 -0800
---Phil Jaros <chakan@****.PYROTECHNICS.COM> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I really don't think it is balanced (it is close though).
After all,
> one Torgo can kill all Loki's and it takes 3 Loki's to take out one
Torgo
> (or two Loki's if you have a Humanis Policlub ganger out for trolls
- and both
> Loki's are untapped when Lord Torgo shows up). Sure overall costs
are about
> the same but consider this it is really easy to kill off a Loki or
two before
> you put out your Lord Torgo. However, I really think that if you
force a
> player to fill 3-4 deck slots with a 3/2 runner with no skills and
only a very
> specialized special ability, you are ahead of the game.

I doubt the Loki card is completely skilless, I've written Skuzzy to
get the specifics.

I'm also not saying Loki balances Torgo. I was just saying it was cool
to see an elven counterpart to his revised special. Only other Runner
even close in special ability has been Tempest who deals 1 point of
armor piercing damage.

Other things to keep in mind comparing Loki and Torgo are Torgo being
a Prime Runner, whereas Loki is uncommon and not limited in number.
Loki also only costs to 5 deploy compared to Torgo's 9 with a 2 upkeep.

I've also asked Skuzzy to clarify how much Torgo's special will cost,
as I'm sure it costs something.

Plus, if your opponent is really hot on trashing elves in the large
number people have been saying, it's only going to serve to cycle
through your deck and bring Loki's or other elves out again.

Just MHO.

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Message no. 20
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Stats on the Loki card, and Torgo gets a facelift
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:37:19 -0800
Loki wrote:

> > > I'm flattered that the Loki card ranks so close to a Torgo
> > > counterpart. Not to mention, Loki being an uncommon means he'll be
> > > easier to pack in a deck and more likely to pull out in game play.
> :o)

> > Umm, Loki.. he's (you're?) *only* a 3/2.

> I was talking about the special and not the big brute stats. BTW a 3/2
> ain't all that bad for elvish stats. :oP

I was about to point out that Torgo could take out all the Loki's in
play, but not necessarily the other way around, when Phil Jaros leapt to
my aid and did it for me.

Don't worry, I know what you meant.

> > Did you notice you don't have any skills either? ;) You'd figure
> being list-admin you'd at least have Leadership or Social or something...

> OK, so the didn't list my/his skills. I'm sure they'll give me at
> least firearms of melee as any standard runner has, or even athletics
> or stealth as they're easy to come by.

Hehehe.. that almost rates a bwah-ha-ha. Oh, the things they could do
to your reputation..

Seventy expansion sets later (let's hope!), there's bound to be one or
two list-members who still aren't represented by cards.

> I'll forgive your picking on the admin, as I figure it's just the
> jealousy taking Matb. ;o)

You're right; I'm gonna hafta do something big to catch up in the arms
race...


-Matt

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