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Message no. 1
From: Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 08:48:41 -0400
Nothing like starting off your Saturday with questions. These came up
last night:

1. The challenge 'Draco Form' is listed as "unique," but it's played
face down. So what if a couple of players bring two of these into play
at the same time? Does the second one become a bluff? Or is a
Challenge "in play" only during the shadowrun against its objective?

2. Since anyone with conjuring can use Spirits, can anybody with
piloting, such as Turbo the ganger, use drones? (I know what the RPG
answer would be: no vcr = no rigg, but...)

3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium
pistol also acts as body armor?

4. Once a Motion Sensor challenge has been set off (ie. placed face-up
on its objective), can later runners try to sleaze it, first, when
attempting the run again? Or is it irreversible?

(>) --Fenris
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Message no. 2
From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 06:02:24 -0700
---Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET> wrote:
>
[snip]
> 2. Since anyone with conjuring can use Spirits, can anybody with
> piloting, such as Turbo the ganger, use drones? (I know what the RPG
> answer would be: no vcr = no rigg, but...)
>
I seem to recall there was some card that was only playable on a
rigger or someone with piloting-2 (yep PRC-44b Yellowjacket). Since
this distinction has been made, I would say that you are correct. A
rigger is a rigger and everyone else is just a really good driver :-)

> 3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium
> pistol also acts as body armor?
>
I can only assume that it is because you can only have some many +1/+0
and +2/+0 pistols before it starts to get dull :-) Look at it this
way, the Beretta is compact enough that it will allow you to draw it
while getting out of the way ;-)


> 4. Once a Motion Sensor challenge has been set off (ie. placed
face-up
> on its objective), can later runners try to sleaze it, first, when
> attempting the run again? Or is it irreversible?
>

I'm pretty sure that it is supposed to be irreversible.


Hope that helps
Forrest
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Message no. 3
From: Justin Marcinkus <marci001@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 08:31:52 -0500
> From: Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
> 1. The challenge 'Draco Form' is listed as "unique," but it's played
> face down. So what if a couple of players bring two of these into play
> at the same time? Does the second one become a bluff? Or is a
> Challenge "in play" only during the shadowrun against its objective?

Unique simply means that you can only put one in your deck. Multiple
players can play the same unique card on the table. Hence, False Mentor can
reclaim reputation points taken by a False Mentor. You would have to face
both Guardian Dracoforms... nasty.

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Justin Marcinkus
marci001@***.edu
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Message no. 4
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 12:37:39 -0700
---Logan Graves wrote:
>
> Nothing like starting off your Saturday with questions. These came
up
> last night:
>
> 1. The challenge 'Draco Form' is listed as "unique," but it's played
> face down. So what if a couple of players bring two of these into
play
> at the same time? Does the second one become a bluff? Or is a
> Challenge "in play" only during the shadowrun against its objective?

You're confusing restrictions for Unique cards and Prime Runners. A
Unique designation means a given player may only have one in their
deck. Prime Runners may only be one in play, amongst all the players,
at any given time.

> 2. Since anyone with conjuring can use Spirits, can anybody with
> piloting, such as Turbo the ganger, use drones? (I know what the RPG
> answer would be: no vcr = no rigg, but...)

Only Riggers. RBT (pg 33) "Drone cards may only be used by Riggers" as
opposed to (pg 34) "Spirit cards may only be used by Shamans and other
Runners with the Conjure skill."

> 3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium
> pistol also acts as body armor?

'Cause the DLOH's want it that way?

> 4. Once a Motion Sensor challenge has been set off (ie. placed
face-up
> on its objective), can later runners try to sleaze it, first, when
> attempting the run again? Or is it irreversible?

It's there to stay. One recent run against the corp fragged up and now
they're on a paranoid alert.

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Message no. 5
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:54:00 -0400
At 08:48 AM 9/20/97 -0400, Logan Graves wrote these timeless words:
>Nothing like starting off your Saturday with questions. These came up
>last night:
>
>1. The challenge 'Draco Form' is listed as "unique," but it's played
>face down. So what if a couple of players bring two of these into play
>at the same time? Does the second one become a bluff? Or is a
>Challenge "in play" only during the shadowrun against its objective?
>
Unique means that you can only have one in your deck. There can be
multiple Unique Cards in play, you just can't put more than one in play.
Think "Restricted" from magic.

There can only be one of each Prime Runner in play at one time, though...

>2. Since anyone with conjuring can use Spirits, can anybody with
>piloting, such as Turbo the ganger, use drones? (I know what the RPG
>answer would be: no vcr = no rigg, but...)
>
No... It says you can only play drones on Riggers.

>3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium
>pistol also acts as body armor?
>
Not Armor, just adds to your toughness. No idea why...

>4. Once a Motion Sensor challenge has been set off (ie. placed face-up
>on its objective), can later runners try to sleaze it, first, when
>attempting the run again? Or is it irreversible?
>
Nope. Once it's attached, it no longer counts as an challenge, and can't
be encountered or sleazed. It's just permanently in effect.

Bull
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Message no. 6
From: Michel Racicot <harlequin@*********.CA>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:50:58 -0400
> >3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium
> >pistol also acts as body armor?

Not a body armor... but a really good defensive pistol...
offensives pistols are those with a great firepower but a very bad
recoil... but defensives ones would be much more accurate and much more
able to «defend» yourself...

that's my point of view...

Michel Racicot aka Harlequin
Message no. 7
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Fourth batch o' questions
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 10:29:52 -0700
Michel Racicot wrote:
> =

> > >3. Why is the Beretta +2/_+1_ ? Does this indicate that this medium=

> > >pistol also acts as body armor?
> =

> Not a body armor... but a really good defensive pistol...
> offensives pistols are those with a great firepower but a very bad
> recoil... but defensives ones would be much more accurate and much more=

> able to «defend» yourself...
> =

> that's my point of view...

T'heck with that -- it's such a cool pistol it makes you *feel* tougher!

Actually, from what I remember of discussions on Iam Fleming, the
Beretta's a pretty wimpy pistol, compared with most others (and I'll
eliminate to Desert Eagle .50 cal beforehand).

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