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Message no. 1
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Fuchi & Objectives (was Re: Greetings from a long-time lurker)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:46:51 -0700
---Joe&Deb <joew@******.NET> wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm Debbie. My husband and I have been lurking for a really long time,
and
> want to introduce ourselves, and ask a couple of questions...they have been
> discussed before, but we've never really gotten a definite answer. Also, we
> would be interested in doing some trading. We have very little Underworld at
> this point, and are more interested in trading from Limited Edition. First
the
> questions...

Glad to see you come out of the shadows. It's always nice to see a new face
pop up here and there. It's given that most of the bandwidth on a list like
this is dominated by the seven or eight most active members. ;o)

Let's get to those questions...


> 1. The rule book says that you may have up to four of any card in your deck.
> Does this include objectives, or can you have more than four of the same
> objective? We actually posted this question a long time ago, and got two
> responses. One person said only four, the other person said more than four.
> Does anyone know? My husband and I have different views on this.

Here's the answer we got from the DLOH's at FASA (as found in our SRCard Q&A):

Number of Objectives:
Q1: How many Objectives in a legal deck? And if its not exactly 6, why not?
The rules specify 6, but I've seen many 'unofficial' references to that being
a minimum.
A1: 6 is the minimum. You can have as many as you want. Sucker Run's don't
count toward the minimum # of Objectives in your pile. You can have up to 4 of
each Objective card in your pile.

> 2. Fuchi Industries. And this is a two part question. First, can you send
> waves of runners to Fuchi? For example, I have six runners in play. Can I
send
> three separate groups to the same Fuchi? Again, we posted this before and got
> different opinions. I say that you can, because the rule book very
specifically
> says "Unless otherwise stated, Locations and Contacts can be used any number
of
> times during the legwork phase." Therefore, we believe that you CAN send them
> in waves. Second...again, I have six runners in play. Can I send three of
the
> runners to Fuchi, and then send the other three on a run? This is one that I
> know there has been a LOT of discussion over, and I apologize for rehashing
it,
> but we really want to know. My point of view is that you CAN because in the
> rule book quote above, it says locations are used during the LEGWORK PHASE.
So,
> why wouldn't the remaining runners be able to make a run during the SHADOWRUN
> PHASE?

Here's the entries we have for Fuchi in the SRCard Q&A:

Fuchi Industries
Q1: Can say 4 Statics go to Fuchi and then Hatchetman, Scorpio and Skidz go on
a shadowrun on the same turn. The card says that "one or more deckers may
visit Fuchi instead of going on a shadowrun"
A1: The phrasing on the card is bad. A visit to Fuchi takes the place of a
shadowrun. The card makes it sound as though Deckers are the only ones who can
miss the shadowrun, but the intent is that a visit to Fuchi is done instead of
a shadowrun.

Q2: Can you send more than one group of deckers to Fuchi in the same turn,
example send 4 Statics, them 4 Ice Queens in another group, 4 The Moles in a
final group. I think this should be possible because more than 1 runner can
visit other locations like The Iron Lung, Hermetic Library etc….
A2: Because Fuchi takes the place of a shadowrun, you can only go once per
turn.

Q3: When do runners visit Fuchi Industries (during their legwork phase or
shadowrun phase)?
A3: During the shadowrun phase. BUT! this is not actually a shadowrun so cards
that effect shadowruns cannot be played as normal.

Q4: The way Fuchi Industries reads it sounds like 4 Statics can go to Fuchi
together and add all of their Decking together, thus automatically getting the
biggest prize. Is this correct?
A4: Yes. At least until Tempest or something else "waks" those Statics.

> We have a lot more questions, but this is a good start for now.

Let 'em fly, that's what we're here for. :o)

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Message no. 2
From: Joe&Deb <joew@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Fuchi & Objectives (was Re: Greetings from a long-time lurker)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:52:24 -0500
> A1: The phrasing on the card is bad. A visit to Fuchi takes the place of a
> shadowrun. The card makes it sound as though Deckers are the only ones who can
> miss the shadowrun, but the intent is that a visit to Fuchi is done instead of
> a shadowrun.

I guess this is the point that we are most confused about. The way the card
reads (as you point out, the phrasing is bad) DECKERS may visit Fuchi instead of
going on a run. It doesn't say anything about the non-decker runners and it
doesn't say that Fuchi replaces a Shadowrun, just that deckers who visit it
can't go on a run.
Message no. 3
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Fuchi & Objectives (was Re: Greetings from a long-time lurker)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:42:17 -0700
Joe&Deb wrote:

> I guess this is the point that we are most confused about. The way the card
> reads (as you point out, the phrasing is bad) DECKERS may visit Fuchi instead of
> going on a run. It doesn't say anything about the non-decker runners and it
> doesn't say that Fuchi replaces a Shadowrun, just that deckers who visit it
> can't go on a run.

That's, um, being obvious: *Any* Runner who visits a Location can't go
on a shadowrun in the same turn, since they'd be turned. Once you
eliminate that redundancy, you're left with the idea that Runners visit
it instead of going on a shadowrun.. which is exactly what the card
says.


- Matt

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