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Message no. 1
From: Andrew Payne III <smiling_bandit@**********.COM>
Subject: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:40:44 -0700
Could you use Invisibility(INV) to sleaze Flock of Geese(FOG)? I
thought of this before when thinking of ways to sleaze by FOG. Now
since the new FAQ came out and new descriptions on timing have been
laid out, I think that you could sleaze FOG with INV. My thought that
is
based on the below RB exerpt, and the newly defined steps for facing
challenges. I think that INV would satisfy the requirement in step 3,
and therefor FOG would be sleazed and the alarm would not be triggered.
Of course I maybe biased because I want this to work. Maybe we could
send this to FASA for a offical answer.

Spolier stuff for this post.

Bottom of p.57 Top of p.58
"If any Runner or combination of Runners on the Runner team meets the
sleaze requirement, the Challenge is sleazed - the Runners sneak past
the Challenge without triggering the alarm."

From Offical SRTCG FAQ v2.0

Step 1.) the shadowrun is declared.
Step 2.) the Challenge is revealed.
Step 3.) the Runner attempts to sleaze the Challenge (he fails).
Step 4.) the alarm is triggered.
Step 5.) combat ensues and is resolved. All damage is inflicted
instantly and simultaneously.

Flock of Geese
Card Type: Challenge
Text: Awakened, Outdoors
Once revealed, trash Flock of Geese. Flock of Geese automatically
triggers the alarm.

Invisibility
Card Type: Gear/Magic/Spell
Text:
Play on Runner with Sorcery. User sleazes a just revealed Awakened
Challenge. The rest of the team is sent back to the Safehouse.

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Message no. 2
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:52:41 -0700
---Andrew Payne III wrote:
>
> Could you use Invisibility(INV) to sleaze Flock of Geese(FOG)?

<snip some valid points>

Good question. I could go both ways on this as FOG states it
automatically triggers the alarm, but then Invis says the mage sleazes
a just revealed Awakened Challenge.

I'll forward this post over to Jim and Skuzzy when they get back from
their vacation.

Of course if they say yes, you know the next question will be if Sleep
gets you past FOG as well.

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Message no. 3
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:50:07 -0500
At 03:52 PM 9/22/97 -0700, Loki wrote:
# ---Andrew Payne III wrote:
# >
# > Could you use Invisibility(INV) to sleaze Flock of Geese(FOG)?
#
# <snip some valid points>
#
# Good question. I could go both ways on this as FOG states it
# automatically triggers the alarm, but then Invis says the mage sleazes
# a just revealed Awakened Challenge.
#

Well, Geese aren't really awakened
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Message no. 4
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:00:11 -0700
---Jaymz wrote:
>
> At 03:52 PM 9/22/97 -0700, Loki wrote:
> # ---Andrew Payne III wrote:
> # >
> # > Could you use Invisibility(INV) to sleaze Flock of Geese(FOG)?
> #
> # <snip some valid points>
> #
> # Good question. I could go both ways on this as FOG states it
> # automatically triggers the alarm, but then Invis says the mage
sleazes
> # a just revealed Awakened Challenge.
> #
>
> Well, Geese aren't really awakened

Maybe not, but the Challenege card for FOG has the keyword Awakened on
it.

The only other thing I can see that applies to this question is the
RBT (pg 58) says: "If a Challenge has no sleaze requirement, it cannot
be sleazed. In that case, follow the instructions on the card."

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Message no. 5
From: Andrew Payne III <smiling_bandit@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:21:21 -0700
---Loki wrote:
>
> ---Andrew Payne III wrote:
> >
> > Could you use Invisibility(INV) to sleaze Flock of Geese(FOG)?
>
>
> I'll forward this post over to Jim and Skuzzy when they get back from
> their vacation.
>
> Of course if they say yes, you know the next question will be if
Sleep
> gets you past FOG as well.
>

Maybe you could send them a revised question that includes Sleep.

Can you use Sleep and Invisibility to sleaze Flock of Geese?

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Message no. 6
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Geese and Invis
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:34:45 -0700
---Andrew Payne III wrote:
>
> Maybe you could send them a revised question that includes Sleep.
>
> Can you use Sleep and Invisibility to sleaze Flock of Geese?

Great minds think alike. Already planning on it. ;o)

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