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Message no. 1
From: Zachariah Hoffman <zhoffman@*.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:47:10 -0700
Test Subject - Special
0¥
Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for half as
many turns (rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. Place a science token
on runner for this duration.

Adverse Effects - Stinger
3¥
Play on runner who has either a virus token or science token. Place a -1/-1
reaction token on runner. An undamaged Runner can turn to remove this
token. Only one reaction token can be placed on a runner.

Zach


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Message no. 2
From: ">>>>> Axlrose - ... <<<<<" <axlrose@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:06:13 -0500
At 10:47 AM 2/4/99 -0700, Zach created:
>Test Subject - Special
>0¥
>Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for half
as many turns >(rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. Place a science
token on runner for this >duration.

Maybe something along the lines that the runner in question is out of play
so other cards that can affect a turned runner can not affect him/her/it.
Also, maybe the potential that adverse affects to the runner being the lab
rat - such as a loss of skills or a complete race change (ala Sudden
Goblinization). Though wordy, maybe have that each turn affected, roll D6=
...

Off-topic, with the mention of the science token, any word on whether or
not FASA released a spoiler's list for Corp Wars?


>Adverse Effects - Stinger
>3¥
>Play on runner who has either a virus token or science token. Place a
-1/-1 reaction >token on runner. An undamaged Runner can turn to remove
this token. Only one reaction >token can be placed on a runner.

Doesn't virus tokens already add a -1/-1 token onto the character?
Therefore, would this stinger add another one to that one? Would turning
an undamaged runner remove both the tokens or one at a time?

Pretty good ideas - keep them rolling.


>Zach

>>>>>Axlrose - ...here, but not here.....<<<<<
Message no. 3
From: Donald Arganbright <jayden63@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:24:04 MST
Hoi,

>Test Subject - Special
>0¥
>Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for
>half as many turns (rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. Place >a
science token on runner for this duration.

What happens if I only roll a 1? Are they turned for 1/2 of a turn? I
think it might be better to have the time spent turned equal the ammount
of nuyen earned.

>Adverse Effects - Stinger
>3¥
>Play on runner who has either a virus token or science token. Place >a
-1/-1 reaction token on runner. An undamaged Runner can turn to >remove
this token. Only one reaction token can be placed on a >runner.

Placing another -1/-1 token on an already virused runner is fine...
except how do you get rid of reaction tokens? Do they get removed with
the virus token? Do you turn to heal the runner, then turn to remove
the reaction token, then turn to remove the virus token...etc.

Good ideas but they still need a bit of tweakage. Also when
introducting new tokens, effects, and traits. Its a good idea to have
an explanation of what the thing is, how they are revieved, what they
do, and more importantly (in most cases) how they are removed.

>Zach


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*** - Tao ***

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Message no. 4
From: Donald Arganbright <jayden63@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:33:50 MST
>
>Hoi,
>
>>Test Subject - Special
>>0¥
>>Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for
>>half as many turns (rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. >>Place
a science token on runner for this duration.
>
>What happens if I only roll a 1? Are they turned for 1/2 of a >turn?
I think it might be better to have the time spent turned >equal the
ammount of nuyen earned.

Umm... never mind... I figured it out on my own... I guess it would help
if I read the whole thing and not just the parts I like. :)


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Message no. 5
From: Sorrow <sorrow@*******.ORG>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:49:30 -0600
>>Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for
>>half as many turns (rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. Place
>>a science token on runner for this duration.
>What happens if I only roll a 1? Are they turned for 1/2 of a turn?

Perhaps you missed the part (included in the quote) where it says -
"(rounded up)".

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Message no. 6
From: Travis Phillips <tmphill@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:08:37 -0700
Zachariah Hoffman wrote:
>
> Test Subject - Special
> 0¥
> Turn target runner you control. Gain D6 ¥. Runner stays turned for half as
> many turns (rounded up) as the amount of nuyen gained. Place a science token
> on runner for this duration.
>
> Adverse Effects - Stinger
> 3¥
> Play on runner who has either a virus token or science token. Place a -1/-1
> reaction token on runner. An undamaged Runner can turn to remove this
> token. Only one reaction token can be placed on a runner.
>
> Zach
>

These are good, excepting perhaps for some of the criticisms that have
already been stated, but how about:

Blood Drive-Special
Unique 0Nuyen
Owner of Blood Drive may place armor-piercing damage tokens on runners
he/she owns and collect 1 Nuyen for each token placed. May not trash
any runners in this manner.

"There are cookies and juice for you out in the office when we're
through here."

I don't know if it's necessary to specify AP damage, but thought it best
to avoid any confusion.

Just a thought,

Travis
Message no. 7
From: Jon Edwards <jonathan.edwards@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Ideas...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:23:31 -0800
>Blood Drive-Special
>Unique 0Nuyen
>Owner of Blood Drive may place armor-piercing damage tokens on runners
>he/she owns and collect 1 Nuyen for each token placed. May not trash
>any runners in this manner.
>
>"There are cookies and juice for you out in the office when we're
>through here."
>
>I don't know if it's necessary to specify AP damage, but thought it best
>to avoid any confusion.

I LIKE IT!

The flavor is perfect too. And it's always someone's blue-haired
grandmother who's glasses are plate-glass thick.... :)

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