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Message no. 1
From: Sorrow <sorrow@*******.ORG>
Subject: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:49:39 -0500
>> IMHO they do not get the bonus, as the opponent has _intercepted_ the
>> shadowrun. The shadowrun is aborted,
>A Runner team is still shadowrunning (on the Shadowrun) until the
>interception combat has been resolved. The Runners lose their boni as
>soon as they return to safehouse. ---Felix

bzzt, thanks for playing. We have some lovely departing prizes. :p

pg 71 of the rulebook:

[Intercepting a Shadowrun]

Last paragraph...
"Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".

Fodder for cool strategies.

Sorrow
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I don't want to be alone | I hurt, therefore I am
anymore |--------------------------------
I don't want to be anyone | "What are you looking at...?
anymore | you never seen anyone try to
I don't need a reason to kill myself | commit suicide before?" - Anon
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Message no. 2
From: Gunnar Lundquist <OneWay919@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:38:40 EDT
In a message dated 98-09-17 17:56:49 EDT, you write:

<<
pg 71 of the rulebook:

[Intercepting a Shadowrun]

Last paragraph...
"Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".

Fodder for cool strategies.

Sorrow >>

well I must have just skipped that part.. ;-)...thanks for the clerification

OneWay......MyWay
Message no. 3
From: "(Ryan Smith)" <SnakeIzBac@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:50:18 EDT
In a message dated 9/17/98 5:52:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sorrow@*******.ORG writes:

<< pg 71 of the rulebook:

[Intercepting a Shadowrun]

Last paragraph...
"Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".

Fodder for cool strategies. >>



Sorrow you always have such a great way of using the rulebook. I love it. = )
Message no. 4
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:40:45 +0200
Sorrow wrote:
>
> >> IMHO they do not get the bonus, as the opponent has _intercepted_ the
> >> shadowrun. The shadowrun is aborted,
> >A Runner team is still shadowrunning (on the Shadowrun) until the
> >interception combat has been resolved. The Runners lose their boni as
> >soon as they return to safehouse. ---Felix
>
> bzzt, thanks for playing. We have some lovely departing prizes. :p
>
> pg 71 of the rulebook:
>
> [Intercepting a Shadowrun]
>
> Last paragraph...
> "Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
> Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
> if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".

I tend to agree. But one could argue that since the above statement
refers to the defeat of the interceptors, the Shadowrun *does* last
until the end of combat, and *then* the team pulls out, ending the run.
Logic-wise I´d say that since the Shadowrunner team is still in the
"run territory", i.e. the Objective surroundings, the boni would apply
to the Runner-Runner combat as well. For instance the Crime Wave
Ganger/Thug bonus would apply since the Runners are in gang territory
while fighting the interceptors. But I´ve also learned not to apply too
much real-world logic to the game. Maybe you real-life gangers out there
could tell me about your experiences with this... ;o)
I think I need an official ruling on this. I hope someone with a good
connection forwards this tidbit to the DLOHs. ---Felix
Message no. 5
From: Noah Overton <Puckstpr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:55:09 EDT
In a message dated 98-09-17 17:53:37 EDT, you write:

> >> IMHO they do not get the bonus, as the opponent has _intercepted_ the
> >> shadowrun. The shadowrun is aborted,
> >A Runner team is still shadowrunning (on the Shadowrun) until the
> >interception combat has been resolved. The Runners lose their boni as
> >soon as they return to safehouse. ---Felix
>
> bzzt, thanks for playing. We have some lovely departing prizes. :p
>
> pg 71 of the rulebook:
>
> [Intercepting a Shadowrun]
>
> Last paragraph...
> "Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
> Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
> if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".
>
> Fodder for cool strategies.
>
> Sorrow

um hello,
that just means that the objective will not be taken, think of it as a
bigger nastier chomps. take your damage and go home and cry about.

words from "DA' PUCK"
Message no. 6
From: Mike Brink <SahuBrink@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:10:11 EDT
In a message dated 98-09-17 19:56:17 EDT,
Felix replied:

<< Sorrow wrote:
>
> >> IMHO they do not get the bonus, as the opponent has _intercepted_ the
> >> shadowrun. The shadowrun is aborted,
> >A Runner team is still shadowrunning (on the Shadowrun) until the
> >interception combat has been resolved. The Runners lose their boni as
> >soon as they return to safehouse. ---Felix
>
> bzzt, thanks for playing. We have some lovely departing prizes. :p
>
> pg 71 of the rulebook:
>
> [Intercepting a Shadowrun]
>
> Last paragraph...
> "Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
> Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
> if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".

I tend to agree. But one could argue that since the above statement
refers to the defeat of the interceptors, the Shadowrun *does* last
until the end of combat, and *then* the team pulls out, ending the run.
Logic-wise I´d say that since the Shadowrunner team is still in the
"run territory", i.e. the Objective surroundings, the boni would apply
to the Runner-Runner combat as well. For instance the Crime Wave
Ganger/Thug bonus would apply since the Runners are in gang territory
while fighting the interceptors. But I´ve also learned not to apply too
much real-world logic to the game. Maybe you real-life gangers out there
could tell me about your experiences with this...
;o)>>>>>>>>>>>>>

IMHO. we tend to think of it as the shadowrunning team is caught en route to
the objective (they're not snooping around the grounds looking for the back
door and then-- lo and behold-- there is another team here!). If it were my
team, I hope at least one of them would have the brains to leave the combat
and finish the job. I'm paying them well enough. And I take the meaning of
"intercepting" as "coming between", which would mean that they fight
before
the objective is reached.
Felix also wrote:
>>>>>>I think I need an official ruling on this. I hope someone with a
good
connection forwards this tidbit to the DLOHs. ---Felix >>>>>>
I agree totally.

Cya,
Mike
Message no. 7
From: Sorrow <sorrow@*******.ORG>
Subject: Re: Intercepting a Shadowrun (was Re: Two questions)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:26 -0500
>> [Intercepting a Shadowrun]
>> Last paragraph...
>> "Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun. The
>> Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun even
>> if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".
> I tend to agree. But one could argue that since the above statement
>refers to the defeat of the interceptors, the Shadowrun *does* last
>until the end of combat, and *then* the team pulls out, ending the run.

I agree that this matter should be answered by the DLOH's. Loki?
However, I disagree with your assessment. There are 2 seperate
points there. The first:
"Intercepting a shadowrun automatically ends the Shadowrun."
says that 'Intercepting' (the act of intercepting) automatically ends
the Run.
Then it continues onto the second point:
"The Runner team is considered to have pulled out of the shadowrun
even if the team defeats the intercepting Runner(s)".
While the points are related, it doesn't really infer duration. The
second point really only clears up any possible ambiguity for cards
that specify that particular instance.

> Logic-wise I´d say that since the Shadowrunner team is still in the
>"run territory", i.e. the Objective surroundings,

Not necessarily. They could have been 'intercepted' before they got
to the 'run territory'.

>I think I need an official ruling on this. I hope someone with a good
>connection forwards this tidbit to the DLOHs. ---Felix

Agreed.

Sorrow
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I don't want to be alone | I hurt, therefore I am
anymore |--------------------------------
I don't want to be anyone | "What are you looking at...?
anymore | you never seen anyone try to
I don't need a reason to kill myself | commit suicide before?" - Anon
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