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Message no. 1
From: Apone <mpcheval@********.FR>
Subject: Just a few more questions
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:43:14 +0200
I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:

1. In a two players game, can Even Steven get rid of the Humanis
Policlup Ganger when it makes a metahuman runner comming into play
turned ?

2. On Change of Plans the text says :"Play when a player announces a
shadowrun". But must COP be played before a player announces on which
objective he attempts a shadowrun or can it be play just after ?

3. Let's picture that one player has deployed a prime runner, for
instance Lord Torgo. If I play Abducted on it, the card is treated as
fragged until the end of its owner's next turn.
Meanwhile, I deploy Lord Torgo. So when the effect of Abducted are
cancelled, there's already this prime runner
in play. The runner targeted by Abducted should be trash.
Is that right ?

That's all I've got for now but I guess some more will be coming soon.
Thanks in advance for taking a look at these questions.

so long

Apone.


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Message no. 2
From: Tony Glinka <porthos@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Just a few more questions
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:17:09 -0700
Apone wrote:

> I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:
>
> 3. Let's picture that one player has deployed a prime runner, for
> instance Lord Torgo. If I play Abducted on it, the card is treated as
> fragged until the end of its owner's next turn.
> Meanwhile, I deploy Lord Torgo. So when the effect of Abducted are
> cancelled, there's already this prime runner
> in play. The runner targeted by Abducted should be trash.
> Is that right ?

Almost right. From the Q&A:

Abducted:
Q2: Let's say my opponent has a Prime Runner in play. I play Abducted on
him and he is considered Fragged until the end of the turn. He's out of
play, non-existent so to speak, so I now play my own copy of the same Prime
Runner. What happens at the end of the turn?
A2: The Abducted Runner is fragged when he returns

Hope this helps.

Tony
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Message no. 3
From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: Just a few more questions
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:47:06 -0400
>I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:
>
>1. In a two players game, can Even Steven get rid of the Humanis
>Policlup Ganger when it makes a metahuman runner comming into play
>turned ?


I don't see what the problem is, Even Steven isn't a runner, so Humanis
Policeclub wouldn't effect him in any way.

>2. On Change of Plans the text says :"Play when a player announces a
>shadowrun". But must COP be played before a player announces on which
>objective he attempts a shadowrun or can it be play just after ?


I've always played that a player announces both that he's going on a run and
what he's running on at the same time.
Message no. 4
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Re: Just a few more questions
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:52:08 +0200
Apone wrote:
>
> I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:
>
> 1. In a two players game, can Even Steven get rid of the Humanis
> Policlup Ganger when it makes a metahuman runner comming into play
> turned ?
>
> 2. On Change of Plans the text says :"Play when a player announces a
> shadowrun". But must COP be played before a player announces on which
> objective he attempts a shadowrun or can it be play just after ?
>
> 3. Let's picture that one player has deployed a prime runner, for
> instance Lord Torgo. If I play Abducted on it, the card is treated as
> fragged until the end of its owner's next turn.
> Meanwhile, I deploy Lord Torgo. So when the effect of Abducted are
> cancelled, there's already this prime runner
> in play. The runner targeted by Abducted should be trash.
> Is that right ?
>
> That's all I've got for now but I guess some more will be coming soon.
> Thanks in advance for taking a look at these questions.
>

1. IMHO E.S. can only be used after Humanis has been deployed, since
targetting a metahuman race is using it. After that it would be used
during your own turn, so by E.S. card text, you couldn´t use it anymore.

2.You play C.o.P. after he´s declared the run. Most players will,
however, name the Objective on which they want to run in the same
sentence. If they do it that way, you can still play C.o.P after they´ve
said it, since they can´t block you by "compressing" their Phases.

3. Brad answered that one already.

Felix
Message no. 5
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Re: Just a few more questions
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:06:07 +0200
Norman McLeod wrote:
>
> >I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:
> >
> >1. In a two players game, can Even Steven get rid of the Humanis
> >Policlup Ganger when it makes a metahuman runner comming into play
> >turned ?
>
> I don't see what the problem is, Even Steven isn't a runner, so Humanis
> Policeclub wouldn't effect him in any way.

Even Steven is played on/ against a *Connection* which has been used
after the E.S. player´s last turn. Nothing to do with Runners.

I revise my last post on this. After closely reviewing E.S. text, I say
that yes, it can be played on Humanis. The key phrase is *last* turn,
which is the one before the current one. ---Felix
Message no. 6
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Just a few more questions
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:59:46 -0700
---Apone <mpcheval@********.FR> wrote:
>
> I've just played a couple of games today and here' s what puzzled us:
>
> 1. In a two players game, can Even Steven get rid of the Humanis
> Policlup Ganger when it makes a metahuman runner comming into play
> turned ?

IMHO the Humanis Policlubber is legimately considered "used" when he
hinders the deployment of his target meta-race (by costing an extra nu
yen and bringing the runner in turned).

This has come up in a couple of the games I've played with Tony and
Caric, and that's the decision we've reached. They can't target my
Policlubber with Even Steven unless he has had his effect on the
recent deployment of a troll (assumedably on their own turn or the one
prior in a multi-player game).

> 2. On Change of Plans the text says :"Play when a player announces a
> shadowrun". But must COP be played before a player announces on which
> objective he attempts a shadowrun or can it be play just after ?

Most people I've played with just declare a shadowrun and the target
Objective in the same breath. CoP would be validly played after
they've said where they're going and before they reveal the first
Challenge on that run.

> 3. Let's picture that one player has deployed a prime runner, for
> instance Lord Torgo. If I play Abducted on it, the card is treated as
> fragged until the end of its owner's next turn.
> Meanwhile, I deploy Lord Torgo. So when the effect of Abducted are
> cancelled, there's already this prime runner
> in play. The runner targeted by Abducted should be trash.
> Is that right ?

According to the SRCard Q&A, the abducted Torgo would get fragged as
another has taken his place.

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