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Message no. 1
From: Michael/Tamara Pease-Lorenz <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
Subject: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:04:35 -0400
Hi all....

I have to say that this game gets better with each gaming session... I
was wif Magic<tg> since the beta run and I have just boxed those cards
up to strictly play SR.

Loki would you please forward these questions to your friends at FASA
for some official rulings?

1) Question regarding using gear/anything cards on a character that is
TAPPED.
Example: Can a mage who is currently tapped because of whatever, use an
untapped gear/spell such as HEAL, if he/she has enough Sorcery Skills?
The same question can be asked for tapped Deckers/Riggers/ and Shamans.

2) Does cyberware such as the CyberARM augment the overall threat
rating when a character uses a firearm?
Example: Can Stomper 6/7, use a cyberarm +2/0 and a Uzi +1/0 for a
overall threat rating of 9/7?

3) Question regarding the use of HEAL/gear:
For example: Marek the Mage has a gear/HEAL card, my opponent plays
riots and my Static takes 2 DMG from that special card. In response to
the Riots card, can i tap my HEAL spell and heal Static eventhough he
went NEGATIVE?

4) Can a Shaman/Rigger with a Skill ranking of 2 in Conjuring/Piloting
have multiple Spirits/Drones of lvl 2? Or does the single spirit/drone
of lvl 2 take up all of the concentration of a shaman/rigger of Skill 2?
For example: Can Papy hold and use 2 Greater Elementals at the same
time?
Message no. 2
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:19:17 -0600
Michael/Tamara Pease-Lorenz wrote:
>
> Hi all....
>
> I have to say that this game gets better with each gaming session... I
> was wif Magic<tg> since the beta run and I have just boxed those cards
> up to strictly play SR.
>
> Loki would you please forward these questions to your friends at FASA
> for some official rulings?
>
> 1) Question regarding using gear/anything cards on a character that is
TAPPED. Example: Can a mage who is currently tapped because of whatever, use an untapped
gear/spell such as HEAL, if he/she has enough Sorcery Skills? The same question can be
asked for tapped Deckers/Riggers/ and Shamans.
>
2) Does cyberware such as the CyberARM augment the overall threat rating
when a character uses a firearm? Example: Can Stomper 6/7, use a
cyberarm +2/0 and a Uzi +1/0 for a overall threat rating of 9/7?
>
3) Question regarding the use of HEAL/gear:
For example: Marek the Mage has a gear/HEAL card, my opponent plays
riots and my Static takes 2 DMG from that special card. In response to
the Riots card, can i tap my HEAL spell and heal Static eventhough he
went NEGATIVE?

4) Can a Shaman/Rigger with a Skill ranking of 2 in Conjuring/Piloting
have multiple Spirits/Drones of lvl 2? Or does the single spirit/drone
of lvl 2 take up all of the concentration of a shaman/rigger of Skill 2?
For example: Can Papy hold and use 2 Greater Elementals at the same
time?

-- Hey, I'm not sure about some of this, but I think that the cyberarm
(Question 2) would be added with the Uzi to give Stomper a 9/7 (like you
said).
I also think that in the example you gave in question 4, Pappy can hold
and use 2 Greater elementals at once. I don't think the lvl. 2
requirement on the Greater E. means that it takes up that many levels of
the skill to USE. I think it just means that the Shaman has to be that
skilled to deal w/ something like a Greater Elemental.
I do know that you can't use the Heal card to heal somebody who has
"died'. I asked FASA that one myself!

mothman@**********.com

"It's more fun to compute"
—Kraftwerk
Message no. 3
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:01:22 -0700
---Michael/Tamara Pease-Lorenz wrote:
>
> Loki would you please forward these questions to your friends at FASA
> for some official rulings?

Yes. However, to cut down on the volume of questions hitting Jim and
Skuzzy's email, I'll give you a couple of answers I know for sure.

> 1) Question regarding using gear/anything cards on a
character that is
> TAPPED.
> Example: Can a mage who is currently tapped because of
whatever, use an
> untapped gear/spell such as HEAL, if he/she has enough Sorcery
Skills?
> The same question can be asked for tapped Deckers/Riggers/ and
Shamans.

I'm pretty sure this is no. Unless they were turned (and the gear is
being used thusly) for a Shadowrun. I'll get clarification on this
though.

> 2) Does cyberware such as the CyberARM augment the overall
threat
> rating when a character uses a firearm?
> Example: Can Stomper 6/7, use a cyberarm +2/0 and a Uzi +1/0
for a
> overall threat rating of 9/7?

Yes, the modifiers that aren't cumulative are when it's explicitly
labelled "ranged" or "hand-to-hand". Coincidentally Bam's Bam's
special would add his Melee to damage when using an Uzi as well.
(Guess he shoots you and then beats you with the gun.)

> 3) Question regarding the use of HEAL/gear:
> For example: Marek the Mage has a gear/HEAL card, my opponent plays
> riots and my Static takes 2 DMG from that special card. In response
to
> the Riots card, can i tap my HEAL spell and heal Static eventhough he
> went NEGATIVE?

A Stim Patch yes. The Heal Spell no. This was answered previously on
the list.

> 4) Can a Shaman/Rigger with a Skill ranking of 2 in
Conjuring/Piloting
> have multiple Spirits/Drones of lvl 2? Or does the single
spirit/drone
> of lvl 2 take up all of the concentration of a shaman/rigger of
Skill 2?
> For example: Can Papy hold and use 2 Greater Elementals at
the same
> time?

The Rigger's/Shaman's skill sets the number of Drones/Spirits he may
have active at a time. Drones/Spirits don't actually have "levels" or
"ratings," what you may be describing is a requirement of having
Piloting: 2 or Conjuring: 2 to place the gear card on a Runner. In
this case the runner must have the skill at the required level to
wield the more potent card, but it still only counts as a single
Drone/Spirit when activated.

The answer to your example would be yes, and Pappy would be a bad ass.

I'll pass this last question on if you want, but that's how it was
explained to me at Gen Con.

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Message no. 4
From: Nemein <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:25:19 -0700
---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote:
>
[snip]
> > 2) Does cyberware such as the CyberARM augment the overall
> > threat rating when a character uses a firearm?
> > Example: Can Stomper 6/7, use a cyberarm +2/0 and a Uzi
> > +1/0 for a overall threat rating of 9/7?
>
> Yes, the modifiers that aren't cumulative are when it's explicitly
> labelled "ranged" or "hand-to-hand". Coincidentally Bam's Bam's
> special would add his Melee to damage when using an Uzi as well.
> (Guess he shoots you and then beats you with the gun.)
>

To play devil's advocate again :-) Are you sure about this one.
Here's a couple of selections from the rbt:

In the section on Cyberware:
" Some Cyberware cards function as weapons, while others modify a
Runner's skills."

In the section on weapons:
"A Runner may hold any number of Weapon cards but may use only one
Weapon per Challenge or combat. "

We've always taken this to mean that cyberware with threat ratings
(weapons) can't be used with other gear/weapon cards in combat. So
you can go over and slice them with the hand razor, or stand back and
spray them with the Uzi.

Just how we've been doing things, could be wrong....

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Message no. 5
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:35:12 -0700
---Nemein wrote:
>
> ---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > > 2) Does cyberware such as the CyberARM augment the
overall
> > > threat rating when a character uses a firearm?
> > > Example: Can Stomper 6/7, use a cyberarm +2/0 and a Uzi
> > > +1/0 for a overall threat rating of 9/7?
> >
> > Yes, the modifiers that aren't cumulative are when it's explicitly
> > labelled "ranged" or "hand-to-hand". Coincidentally Bam's
Bam's
> > special would add his Melee to damage when using an Uzi as well.
> > (Guess he shoots you and then beats you with the gun.)
> >
>
> To play devil's advocate again :-) Are you sure about this one.

Yes, I am.

> Here's a couple of selections from the rbt:
>
> In the section on Cyberware:
> " Some Cyberware cards function as weapons, while others modify a
> Runner's skills."
>
> In the section on weapons:
> "A Runner may hold any number of Weapon cards but may use only one
> Weapon per Challenge or combat. "
>
> We've always taken this to mean that cyberware with threat ratings
> (weapons) can't be used with other gear/weapon cards in combat. So
> you can go over and slice them with the hand razor, or stand back and
> spray them with the Uzi.
>
> Just how we've been doing things, could be wrong....

If you're talking about Hand Razors, you're correct. It has a
designation of Gear (Cyberware/Weapon) and only one type of weapon may
be used per combat.

However, the original question was about cyberware like the Cyberarm.
Cyberarms, Muscle Augmentation, Dermal Plating are simply Gear
(Cyberware). They augment the Threat Rating, but lack any sort of
keyword Weapon, thus a weapon of choice may be used in conjunction
with their bonuses. Same thing for a shaman using the Ally Spirit's
bonuses as well as an Ares Predator.

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Message no. 6
From: Nemein <nemein@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Loki can you forward these questions?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:56:06 -0700
---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote:
>
> ---Nemein wrote:
> >
> > ---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote:
> > >
[snip]
>
> If you're talking about Hand Razors, you're correct. It has a
> designation of Gear (Cyberware/Weapon) and only one type of weapon
may
> be used per combat.
>
> However, the original question was about cyberware like the Cyberarm.
> Cyberarms, Muscle Augmentation, Dermal Plating are simply Gear
> (Cyberware). They augment the Threat Rating, but lack any sort of
> keyword Weapon, thus a weapon of choice may be used in conjunction
> with their bonuses. Same thing for a shaman using the Ally Spirit's
> bonuses as well as an Ares Predator.
>

OK I see what's up now. The spoiler list that I have (since I didn't
have the cards in front of me) have both Hand Razors and Cyberarm
listed simply as Gear/Cyberware. So I assumed ;-) that the only thing
that distinguished whether something was a weapon or not, was if it
had a threat rating....


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