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Message no. 1
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Media Chick
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 05:20:52 -0700
Dumb newbie question: Most contacts can only be used during the
owner/controller's Legwork phase. The Media Chick card reads "...use
Media Chick before a shadowrun begins." Am I being too lawyerly in
assuming this means anyone's run?
Message no. 2
From: Michel Racicot <harlequin@*********.CA>
Subject: Media Chick
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:33:12 -0400
There is a statement in the rule book that said:

«Unless otherwise stated, Contact can only be used during the legwork
phase»

wich legwork??? anyone's turn?

if no: you can't use media chick "against" another runner...

Michel Racicot aka Harlequin
Message no. 3
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Media Chick
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 01:58:25 -0700
---Michel Racicot wrote:
>
> There is a statement in the rule book that said:
>
> «Unless otherwise stated, Contact can only be used during the
legwork
> phase»
>
> wich legwork??? anyone's turn?

Your own Legwork phase.

> if no: you can't use media chick "against" another runner...

As has been stated in another thread, you wouldn't want to use Media
Chick on an opponent's run anyways. The wording of the card gives you
a no win situation. You're either adding +10 to the rep you opponent
gets or you're losing 10 rep yourself.

Stick with using her on your own runs when you're damn certain from
recon and runners' abilities that you should be able to take it.

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Message no. 4
From: Michael/Tamara Pease-Lorenz <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
Subject: Re: Media Chick
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:26:08 -0500
Loki wrote:
> Why would you want to use her outside of your own turn?

Ahh well a cunning player in our group was using it as a blackmail
card. They designed a nuyen generating deck and simply made a losing bet
to get himself down to negative 10, and then just bet 8 nuyen on each
shadowrun .. so that the running team would have to pull out of any
potentially successful run because "we thought" that the media chick
gave the user the rep points :-)
It was very frustrating, but looking closely at the card, it does not
say anywhere on the card that it can be on someone else's turn :-) I
have no idea why we simply assumed that it could :-) <blush>

Thanks for your input everyone!
We can't wait til the second run comes out!

Tamara
Message no. 5
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Media Chick
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:38:27 -0600
>>>I get the feeling someone is looking at the wording, which is
understandable ;) and not the intention. I believe the intention is
that Media Chick is used on your own shadowruns and not someone elses.
Any other views?<<<

I think Media Chick is intended to be used by the shadowrunnning player
only.
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Message no. 6
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Media Chick
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:40:01 -0600
>>>Because any player can only use contacts and locations during their own
legwork phase (rulebook pg 42-43) players A, B and C could not use their Media Chick for
player D's shadowrun.<<<

An excellent observation. Why didn't I think of that?
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Message no. 7
From: Lodewijk Roskott <l.roskott@***.NL>
Subject: media chick
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:49:43 +0200
I have a little comment on media chick
let's assume i have no rep points
there is an objective on the table,
i use my media chick once by paying 1
nuyen and send a runner on shadowrun
and i pull him out after the first challenge and i lose 10
points(i'm now at -10 rep points)
the next turn i go on another shadowrun(cakewalk)
i pump 6 nuyen into my mediachick so
if i get the objective i get 70 rep points and win the
game,if i don't get the objective,i wont lose any rep points because i'm
already on a negative reputation number.
can i do this?

lood
Message no. 8
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: media chick
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:43:18 -0800
---Lodewijk Roskott <l.roskott@***.NL> wrote:
>
> I have a little comment on media chick
> let's assume i have no rep points
> there is an objective on the table,
> i use my media chick once by paying 1
> nuyen and send a runner on shadowrun
> and i pull him out after the first challenge and i lose 10
> points(i'm now at -10 rep points)
> the next turn i go on another shadowrun(cakewalk)
> i pump 6 nuyen into my mediachick so
> if i get the objective i get 70 rep points and win the
> game,if i don't get the objective,i wont lose any rep points because
i'm
> already on a negative reputation number.
> can i do this?
>
> lood

For now, yes.

However, in 2nd Run you'll find the DLOH's have "fixed" this.

Media Chick will be revised so a cap of either 1 or 3 nu yen per use
is put on her.

Also, the DLOH's have rescinded the rule on negative rep (put in
writing in 2nd Run) so there's no limit on the hole you can dig for
yourself. In your above example (saying there's no cap on M-Chick), if
you hit a Maglock you couldn't get past or you opponent hit you with a
WGC, you'd be sitting at -70 rep. Ick!

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Message no. 9
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Media Chick
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:49:30 +0200
Joshua Cho wrote:
[snip]
> oh, and I have a question... the FAQ states that media chick (gotta love the
> name) can be used more than once per turn. does that mean you can pay 6
> nuyen, take cake walk, and win the game? or is it 1nuyen per media chick in
> play?
>
Media Chick: During the German Championship Tournament, the FanPro
representative asked FASA for official ruling on this (I think it was
FASA, but it could have been FanPro´s specialists). Their ruling was
that only 1 Nuyen may be used per turn, whichever occurs first,
decreasing the unbalancing effect of M.C. ---Felix
Message no. 10
From: Olaf kramer <Olaf-Kramer@********.DE>
Subject: Re: Media Chick
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 18:44:21 +0200
Felix Hoefert schrieb:
> Joshua Cho wrote:
> [snip]
> > oh, and I have a question... the FAQ states that media chick (gotta love
> the
> > name) can be used more than once per turn. does that mean you can pay 6
> > nuyen, take cake walk, and win the game? or is it 1nuyen per media chick in
> > play?
> >
> Media Chick: During the German Championship Tournament, the FanPro
> representative asked FASA for official ruling on this (I think it was
> FASA, but it could have been FanPro´s specialists). Their ruling was
> that only 1 Nuyen may be used per turn, whichever occurs first,
> decreasing the unbalancing effect of M.C. ---Felix

Not per turn, he sayd per Run.

OLAF

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