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Message no. 1
From: Mattew Cater <hapihse@******.COM>
Subject: Media Chick and a Question.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:07:44 -0800
There's been much debate on media chick, and for some reason many people
seem to think she is pumpable by The Fat Man.If you look at the wording on
The Fat Man:

"The Fat Man"
Type: Contact
"Use this card at any time. You may pay pumpable =Y= costs on any player's
>>Challenge<< and/or >>Runner<< cards...

Since the Media Chick is a >>Contact<< she can't be pumped by The Fat Man.

Now, as to my question-

As anyone who has run against the amazon hunt knows, the dice results are
very important. The situation we keep running into here the the Loaded
Dice / DeJaVu conflict. If I'm about to roll the armor stat, and my
opponent(s) play "Loaded Dice", then I play "DeJaVu", is the addition
applied to the previous roll or the new one?

"Remember- no matter where you go, there you are."
-Buckaroo Banzai
Message no. 2
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Media Chick and a Question.
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:50:09 -0800
Mattew Cater wrote:

> There's been much debate on media chick, and for some reason many people
> seem to think she is pumpable by The Fat Man.If you look at the wording on
> The Fat Man:

> "The Fat Man"
> Type: Contact
> "Use this card at any time. You may pay pumpable =Y= costs on any player's
> >>Challenge<< and/or >>Runner<< cards...

> Since the Media Chick is a >>Contact<< she can't be pumped by The Fat
Man.

<gloat>
Thank you for pointing this out. I was really surprised that Rob passed
this over not once, but twice.
</gloat>

> Now, as to my question-

> As anyone who has run against the amazon hunt knows, the dice results are
> very important. The situation we keep running into here the the Loaded
> Dice / DeJaVu conflict. If I'm about to roll the armor stat, and my
> opponent(s) play "Loaded Dice", then I play "DeJaVu", is the
addition
> applied to the previous roll or the new one?

You're missing a step - you have to actually roll the dice before you
can Deja Vu the roll. :)

I've always assumed that Deja Vu negates Loaded Dice -- or, looked at
from another angle, Loaded Dice only apply to the *next* die roll made,
and the Deja Roll is a second roll.
(This makes Deja a tad bit more powerful that Loaded Dice; but if you
invert the situation, you wind with an equal imbalance. Note that there
are situations in which Loaded Dice is useful and Deja Vu isn't; very
few where the obverse is true.)

The Wabbit's Foot works after the fact, and so is usually safe from
being negated (the "just foo" rule).

> "Remember- no matter where you go, there you are."
> -Buckaroo Banzai
Message no. 3
From: Quicksilver <qwksilvr@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Media Chick and a Question.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:47:28 -0600
At 09:50 AM 11/9/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Mattew Cater wrote:

<<snippage of original questions>>

>I've always assumed that Deja Vu negates Loaded Dice -- or, looked at
>from another angle, Loaded Dice only apply to the *next* die roll made,
>and the Deja Roll is a second roll.

We play it the other way.
Deja Vu states: Target player must re-roll any dice roll that he
just made.
It specifies a re-roll of the last role made, and the last roll was
a modified roll. It does not state make a new roll to replace the last roll
made.
Just the way we see it. Doesn't make it right :).

Hg

Standard Disclaimer: The above are just my opinions. I have been wrong
before, I will be wrong again.

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