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Message no. 1
From: Jon Edwards <jonathan.edwards@*****.COM>
Subject: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:45:21 +0100
At 05:38 PM 10/5/98 , you wrote:
>>Thanks for your interest. The fact is we have limited resorces and with 2
new
>>games coming out in the next six months we have to make some tough decisions
>>about what we do ship. Right now Shadowrun 3rd edition is in its third
>>printing after only 2 months. We are therfore doing our best to support this
>>line. BattleTech is also selling better than ever. because of this we have
>>chosen to sell Earthdawn and delay the release of the Shadowrun Card
game. At
>>this time we have not set the release date for the Corp War but the
>product is
>>nearly compleate. All I can ask you to do is be patient and keep looking for
>>an anouncement.
>>We thank you for your loyalty.
>>FASA
>>
>
>Yeah, your letter really looks like it went for the jugular....oh,
>wait...you didn't post your letter to the list, did you?
>

And building on this, this list is for talking about the game, which I
admit you actually referenced in your post (small shock). If you want to
FASA bash, do it somewhere else...go find a WOTC Magic list or something....


On topic (for the non-complaining readers) -- Cortex Bomb and Adam Bomb.
Adam Bomb has a built-in Cortex, right? And can a Cortex Bomb be used in
conjunction with Adam to double-deal the damage?

J
Message no. 2
From: Gabe Rosario <Brakiss187@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:42:47 EDT
In a message dated 98-10-05 20:45:41 EDT, you write:

<<
On topic (for the non-complaining readers) -- Cortex Bomb and Adam Bomb.
Adam Bomb has a built-in Cortex, right? And can a Cortex Bomb be used in
conjunction with Adam to double-deal the damage?

J
>>
duh why not....he can carry gear.....and to be a real prick add a yamaha and
send him on a run with your opponent....

brakiss
Message no. 3
From: Jon Edwards <jonathan.edwards@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:35:36 -0700
>duh why not....he can carry gear.....and to be a real prick add a yamaha and
>send him on a run with your opponent....

Not a bad idea with the Rapier. Although the Z-Zone fits in with the deck
I tried to run last time...
Message no. 4
From: Mark Peterson <talos187@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:19:06 -0700
>and to be a real prick add a yamaha and
> send him on a run with your opponent....

shh.... Tha's what I do.

Actually, what i'm working on but have yet to bother to do is a deck
with Uncle Joe wearing a Cortex Bomb and a Rapier, send him in on
another run with a Hellblast. He kills himself and does 2
armor-piercing to everyone else, then does 5 damage to everyone.

Now a question: If I stuff him in a coffin hotel to be safe, can I
still trash the Yamaha Rapier to send him on a run, even though he's
already turn?


--

peace be thy path,

talos landone
Message no. 5
From: Mark Peterson <talos187@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:20:47 -0700
> Not a bad idea with the Rapier. Although the Z-Zone fits in with the deck
> I tried to run last time...

Yeah but with Z-Zone, aren't all runners from both sides committed?
Boom to all your guys too.
--

peace be thy path,

talos landone
Message no. 6
From: David Reis <david.reis@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:42:02 -0700
>> Not a bad idea with the Rapier. Although the Z-Zone fits in with the deck
>> I tried to run last time...
>
>Yeah but with Z-Zone, aren't all runners from both sides committed?
>Boom to all your guys too.
>--
Only the one(s) you initially select to visit the Z-Zone.

David
Message no. 7
From: "O.Kramer" <Olaf-Kramer@********.DE>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:31:30 +0200
Mark Peterson schrieb:
> > Not a bad idea with the Rapier. Although the Z-Zone fits in with the deck
> > I tried to run last time...
>
> Yeah but with Z-Zone, aren't all runners from both sides committed?
> Boom to all your guys too.
> --
>
> peace be thy path,
>
> talos landone

No, just the "team" that goes in the Z-Zone and the unturned runner of your
opponent are fighting.

OLAF
Message no. 8
From: Gabe Rosario <Brakiss187@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:11:16 EDT
In a message dated 10/6/98 11:20:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, talos187@***.EDU
writes:

> Now a question: If I stuff him in a coffin hotel to be safe, can I
> still trash the Yamaha Rapier to send him on a run, even though he's
> already turn?
>
nope the runner has to be unturned to use the yamaha, but i would be great if
you could...


brakiss
Message no. 9
From: Conrad Mikaelian <MLoki@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:43:55 EDT
In a message dated 10/5/98 5:45:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jonathan.edwards@*****.COM writes:

>
> On topic (for the non-complaining readers) -- Cortex Bomb and Adam Bomb.
> Adam Bomb has a built-in Cortex, right? And can a Cortex Bomb be used in
> conjunction with Adam to double-deal the damage?
>
> J

I've been there and done that and my answer is yes. Just like any other
runner that has a built in cyberware effect (i.e., wired reflexes, dermal
plating) the runner has that ability/limitation and we justify it by saying
they have a cortex bomb or wired reflexes or dermal plating. However it
doesn't say you can't add that effect again through cyberware. Just my
opinion after all it's just a card game, not the real thing.

Conrad
Message no. 10
From: Conrad Mikaelian <MLoki@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:49:40 EDT
In a message dated 10/6/98 8:23:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, talos187@***.EDU
writes:

> > Not a bad idea with the Rapier. Although the Z-Zone fits in with the deck
> > I tried to run last time...
>
> Yeah but with Z-Zone, aren't all runners from both sides committed?
> Boom to all your guys too.
> --
>
> peace be thy path,
>
> talos landone

All of the unturned runners on both sides. That's why you have to throw an
Iron Lung or other location that you can send all of your pansy runners to if
they don't want to go to the Z.

Conrad
Message no. 11
From: "O.Kramer" <Olaf-Kramer@********.DE>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:28:18 +0200
Conrad Mikaelian schrieb:
> In a message dated 10/5/98 5:45:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> jonathan.edwards@*****.COM writes:
>
> >
> > On topic (for the non-complaining readers) -- Cortex Bomb and Adam Bomb.
> > Adam Bomb has a built-in Cortex, right? And can a Cortex Bomb be used in
> > conjunction with Adam to double-deal the damage?
> >
> > J
>
> I've been there and done that and my answer is yes. Just like any other
> runner that has a built in cyberware effect (i.e., wired reflexes, dermal
> plating) the runner has that ability/limitation and we justify it by saying
> they have a cortex bomb or wired reflexes or dermal plating. However it
> doesn't say you can't add that effect again through cyberware. Just my
> opinion after all it's just a card game, not the real thing.
>
> Conrad

Just one thing you can not play wired reflex on ravage.FASA says.

OLAF
Message no. 12
From: Mark Peterson <talos187@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:04:42 -0700
Wires on Ravage? Brrraa-ha-ha
--

peace be thy path,

talos landone
Message no. 13
From: David Reis <david.reis@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:23:13 -0700
>> Yeah but with Z-Zone, aren't all runners from both sides committed?
>
>All of the unturned runners on both sides. That's why you have to throw an
>Iron Lung or other location that you can send all of your pansy runners to if
>they don't want to go to the Z.
>
Sorry, but that's not entirely correct. From the SRTCG Q&A at
http://members.home.net/porthos/srtcg/sc_QandA.html:

Q2: How does the Z-Zone work? Does the player using it have to choose
unturned runners, can the opposing player choose a turned runner, does the
opposing player have to choose all his runners or can he choose a
sacrificial lamb.
A2: Both players must use only unturned Runners. The "defending" player
must use all of his unturned Runners.

Q3: Can more than SIX runners go to the Z-Zone in order to brawl with your
opponent?
A3: No.

By A2, you opponent must use all his unturned runners. By card text and
A3, you choose up to 6 runners to visit the Z-Zone. Since it is entirely
possible you have more than 6 unturned runners, it is not correct that "all
of the unturned runners on both sides" are involved.

David
Message no. 14
From: Freak Finger <Freakfingr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:53:57 EDT
In a message dated 98-10-07 15:50:32 EDT, you write:

<< Just one thing you can not play wired reflex on ravage.FASA says.

>>
-------------------------
I believe the reasoning was , you could only do damage a second time once.
If you try giving damage a second time 2 times your acctualy doing it a third
time and therefore its not a second time. Clear?
Freakfinger (my head hurts)
Message no. 15
From: "O.Kramer" <Olaf-Kramer@********.DE>
Subject: Re: [OT] FASA Bashing
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:32:03 +0200
Freak Finger schrieb:
> In a message dated 98-10-07 15:50:32 EDT, you write:
>
> << Just one thing you can not play wired reflex on ravage.FASA says.
>
> >>
> -------------------------
> I believe the reasoning was , you could only do damage a second time once.
> If you try giving damage a second time 2 times your acctualy doing it a third
> time and therefore its not a second time. Clear?
> Freakfinger (my head hurts)

Thats exacly what they say.

OLAF

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