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Message no. 1
From: Elizabeth Dockendorf <liz@********.NET>
Subject: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:37:31 GMT
Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
>Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.

And Hellblast contains the following text:
>Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners present.

So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners =
present when
he uses Hellblast?
Message no. 2
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:26:39 -0800
---Elizabeth Dockendorf <liz@********.NET> wrote:
>
> Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
> >Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.
>
> And Hellblast contains the following text:
> >Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners present.
>
> So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners
present when
> he uses Hellblast?

No, he adds two to the level of damage that replaces his Attack Value
when using a combat spell.

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Message no. 3
From: Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:56:43 -0500
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Loki wrote:
> ---Elizabeth Dockendorf <liz@********.NET> wrote:
> > Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
> > >Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.
> >
> > And Hellblast contains the following text:
> > >Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners present.
> >
> > So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners
> present when
> > he uses Hellblast?
>
> No, he adds two to the level of damage that replaces his Attack Value
> when using a combat spell.

Er, sorry, going to have to step on your toes here, Loki. Does this come from
a FAQ somewhere? Dr. Apocalypse refers to damage, not strictly Attack Value
after all...

-me.
bladehnt@*********.net
Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:56:17 +0000
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:56:43 -0500
> > > And Hellblast contains the following text:
> > > >Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners present.
> > >
> > > So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners
> > present when
> > > he uses Hellblast?
> >
> > No, he adds two to the level of damage that replaces his Attack Value
> > when using a combat spell.
>
> Er, sorry, going to have to step on your toes here, Loki. Does this come from
> a FAQ somewhere? Dr. Apocalypse refers to damage, not strictly Attack Value
> after all..

Yeah, but read Hellblast and the Dr.'s text. Hellblast does the 2
damage, the Dr does the single target damage USING Hellblast. Thus,
the single target takes 2 more, and the general damage stays at 2.

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 5
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:58:06 -0800
---Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Loki wrote:
> > ---Elizabeth Dockendorf <liz@********.NET> wrote:
> > > Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
> > > >Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.
> > >
> > > And Hellblast contains the following text:
> > > >Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners
present.
> > >
> > > So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners
> > present when
> > > he uses Hellblast?
> >
> > No, he adds two to the level of damage that replaces his Attack
Value
> > when using a combat spell.
>
> Er, sorry, going to have to step on your toes here, Loki. Does this
come from
> a FAQ somewhere? Dr. Apocalypse refers to damage, not strictly
Attack Value
> after all...

Nope, just common sense... which Jim has mentioned should be used in
more than one of his replies.

It seems obvious to me what the intention of the Dr's special is.
Doing a 4 point Hellblast backlash to himself and the rest of the
Runners with him just seems bizarre.

I can ask the question when I write the DLOH's if you really need, but
I'm pretty sure the +2 only applies to spells that replace his threat
rating.

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Message no. 6
From: Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:36:50 -0500
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Loki wrote:
> ---Blade Hunter <bladehnt@*********.NET> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Loki wrote:
> > > ---Elizabeth Dockendorf <liz@********.NET> wrote:
> > > > Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
> > > > >Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.
> > > >
> > > > And Hellblast contains the following text:
> > > > >Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners
> present.
<snip>
> Nope, just common sense... which Jim has mentioned should be used in
> more than one of his replies.
>
> It seems obvious to me what the intention of the Dr's special is.
> Doing a 4 point Hellblast backlash to himself and the rest of the
> Runners with him just seems bizarre.

I'm using common sense differently here. I can perfectly imagine the Dr
getting carried away with ultra-powerful combat spells. Also, that 4 AP
damage can be put to good use in runner-vs-runner combat. The opposition is
just as present as the Dr is. It was one of the first (the day srtcg
came to nyc) obvious combos most people locally had noticed. It's playing the
cards that way for so long that makes your interpretation seem so strange to
me.

> I can ask the question when I write the DLOH's if you really need, but
> I'm pretty sure the +2 only applies to spells that replace his threat
> rating.

Much appreciated if you will.

-me.
bladehnt@*********.net
Message no. 7
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:38:20 -0600
>>>I'm using common sense differently here. I can perfectly imagine the Dr
getting carried away with ultra-powerful combat spells.<<<

Yeah, just look at the expression on his face! The good Doc is
positively psychotic!

I think he does 4 damage to everybody (including himself) with a
hellblast. In fact, I'm betting taht's why he has a Body of 5, so he can
survive his own INSANE spellcasting.

Just my two cents…
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mothman@**********.com

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—Kraftwerk
Message no. 8
From: ""Jens_P._DrÀger""
Subject: Re: Question: Dr. Apocalyse and Hellblast
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 13:54:47 +0200
At 17:37 30.03.1998 GMT, you wrote:
>Okay, Dr. Apocalyse contains the following text:
>>Add +2 to damage Dr. Apocalypse inflicts with spells.
>
>And Hellblast contains the following text:
>>Hellblast inflicts 2 armor piercing damage on all Runners present.
>
>So, does this mean the Dr. Apocalypse does 4 damage to all runners present when
>he uses Hellblast?
>

Nonono, this rather means that you may add two damage to the result of your
D6 dice roll to determine Hellblasts damage - armor piercing damage is still
2...

Jens P.



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