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Message no. 1
From: Rob Harris <rjharris@********.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Fw: Questions about Deckers in Shadowrun CCG
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 23:20:46 -0700
Well, here's a few more questions on the same vein. Anyone want to wager a
guess about the awnsers? Should I send these to "Scuzzies" email address
specifically? I am just mailing the generic fasa account right now. Thanks
everyone!!!
Rob

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> From: Rob Harris <rjharris@********.uiuc.edu>
> To: fasacorp2@***.com
> Subject: Questions about Deckers in Shadowrun CCG
> Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 11:07 PM
>
> Alright, here is a couple questions about Deckers.
>
> 1. A decker counts for being on a run (agaist the maximum of 6 runners),
> but is not present and may not be targeted by challenges, correct?
>
>
>
> 2. If a decker is assisting a run in the about way, is his group hampered
> by his "anti-social" skill (if of course the runner in question has said
> skill)? Is he present on the run (the key words in the description of the
> anti-social skill)?
>
>
>
> 3. Slight timing question. According to the rulebook, if two people want
to
> play cards at the same time, the person whose turn it is goes first. My
> friend has a decker, which I believe states "Turn to steal 1 nuyen from
> your opponent, yadda yadda yadda". Anyways, during my friends turn, he
> decides to go on a run (without this runner), and I have just enough
nuyen
> to play Green Apple Quickstep, and I declare to play it. He then responds
> by turning his decker, and saying "Alright, I will take one of your
nuyen,
> you can no longer play the card, and it is discards". Is this really what
> happens? We are REALLY confused on this one. Can you respond or back up
an
> action? Can cards "fizzle" if you no longer can pay the cost?
>
>
>
> Well, thanks for your time!!!!
Message no. 2
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Fw: Questions about Deckers in Shadowrun CCG
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 07:08:51 -0700
> > Alright, here is a couple questions about Deckers.

> > 1. A decker counts for being on a run (agaist the maximum of 6 runners),
> > but is not present and may not be targeted by challenges, correct?

Pages 35 and 36. If you really wanted to, you could physically send him
any run - give him a big enough gun, and he'll move the world.

> > 2. If a decker is assisting a run in the about way, is his group hampered
> > by his "anti-social" skill (if of course the runner in question has
said
> > skill)? Is he present on the run (the key words in the description of the
> > anti-social skill)?

Anti-social (p. 28) takes effect on any run the character is "present"
in; to be present means to be involved in the shadowrun - "all Runners
on a shadowrun as well as the curretly revealed Challenge." So the
anti-social decker keeps the friendly wiz-mage from making nice with the
cops, yes.

> > 3. Slight timing question. According to the rulebook, if two people want
> to play cards at the same time, the person whose turn it is goes first. My
> > friend has a decker, which I believe states "Turn to steal 1 nuyen from
> > your opponent, yadda yadda yadda". Anyways, during my friends turn, he
> > decides to go on a run (without this runner), and I have just enough
> nuyen to play Green Apple Quickstep, and I declare to play it. He then responds
> > by turning his decker, and saying "Alright, I will take one of your
> nuyen, you can no longer play the card, and it is discards". Is this really what
> > happens? We are REALLY confused on this one. Can you respond or back up
> an action? Can cards "fizzle" if you no longer can pay the cost?

Oh no.. more MtG. :)

Once a card is declared, the money is spent and it is resolved on the
spot. Period, end of report. If the Sticky-Fingered Decker went first,
you wouldn't have the yen to use the card with; but if you went first,
the money is already spent, and the card already resolved.

If it's your turn, you get to go first; if it's your friends, he goes;
if it's someone else's, you each roll d6 and the highest goes.

Can you use a Loaded Die on this? :)

> > Well, thanks for your time!!!!
Message no. 3
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fw: Questions about Deckers in Shadowrun CCG
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:33:47 -0700
---Rob Harris wrote:
>
> Well, here's a few more questions on the same vein. Anyone want to
wager a
> guess about the awnsers? Should I send these to "Scuzzies" email
address
> specifically? I am just mailing the generic fasa account right now.

Skuzzy has answered some of the questions I've sent to the FASA
address for SRTCG questions. I wouldn't bombard his personal address
with SRTCG gaming questions.

> ----------
> > Alright, here is a couple questions about Deckers.
> >
> > 1. A decker counts for being on a run (agaist the maximum of 6
runners),
> > but is not present and may not be targeted by challenges, correct?

Correct. Except they can be affected by Decker specific challenges
like Closed System.

> > 2. If a decker is assisting a run in the about way, is his
group hampered
> > by his "anti-social" skill (if of course the runner in question
has said
> > skill)? Is he present on the run (the key words in the description
of the
> > anti-social skill)?

No, he is not "present" as in physically with the group, so I don't
believe anti-social will affect anything. Niether do I think his
actual skills should be counted in factoring whether the group may
sleaze a challenge. In other words, a decker with the Technical skill
who's not physically present on a run would not let the group sleaze
the electric fence. However, a his decking with a matrix utility like
Steamroller may get them past it.

> > 3. Slight timing question. According to the rulebook, if two
people want
> to
> > play cards at the same time, the person whose turn it is goes
first. My
> > friend has a decker, which I believe states "Turn to steal 1 nuyen
from
> > your opponent, yadda yadda yadda". Anyways, during my friends
turn, he
> > decides to go on a run (without this runner), and I have just
enough
> nuyen
> > to play Green Apple Quickstep, and I declare to play it. He then
responds
> > by turning his decker, and saying "Alright, I will take one of your
> nuyen,
> > you can no longer play the card, and it is discards". Is this
really what
> > happens?

I believe the card you're describing is Ice Queen, turning her causes
your opponent to lose a nuyen. However, I also believe the card (I
don't have my cards at work) states this is done during the legwork
phase. In you example, your friend was past the Legwork phase and into
his Shadowrun phase.

There's also a matrix utility called Sticky Fingers that lets you
steal a nuyen from your opponent as long as they have two nuyen or
more. Again, I don't have my cards with me so I can't give you the
exact wording of sticky fingers, but my hunch is it may only be used
during the Legwork phase as well.

Now, another opinion I have is that the point may be moot. You've
already spent the nuyen to deploy Green Apple Quickstep.That money is
gone. So by the time he taps his decker to take the nuyen, there's
either nothing there to take or the nuyen he can take i what's left
after you've paid for Green Apple.

Anyways, that's my two nuyen's worth. Let me know what FASA comes back
with.

===
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