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Message no. 1
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Fwd: SRTCG question on Sleazing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:27:35 -0700
OK guys, here's the answer to that whole sleazing/lock-down question
brought on by the Motion Dectors and Gut Check thread. Looks like
FASA agrees that skill based sleazing and card text sleazing are two
seperate things. :o)

---FASACorp2@***.com wrote:
>
> Once Motion Detectors and Red Alert are played, Challenges cannot be
sleazed.
> However, cards like Feeding Ghouls and Gut Check! are, indeed, an
exception
> to this. As you point out, not being able to get past Gut Check! on a
> successful roll makes no sense (and we are counting on people to use
some
> common sense in such situations. We don't want the game to become as
> convoluted as Magic can be.)
>
> Sleep spell would also work against Objectives defended by Red Alert
and
> Motion Detectors.
>
> There's a comment in your e-mail message that we are behind
answering mail.
> As this answer will probably go up on the web, I want to point out
why we're
> behind. We've received over 300 questions already! The only people
at FASA
> (at the moment) qualified to answer these questions are the SRTCG
game
> designers and we are also busy working on 50 new cards for the second
> printing and 150 new cards for the first expansion. We promise to do
our best
> to keep up with questions but we also want to keep bringing you new
cards
> (and to sleep, at least occassionally).
>
> Thanks for all of the interest!
>
> Jim Nelson

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Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Fwd: SRTCG question on Sleazing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 23:35:15 -0400
At 08:27 PM 9/5/97 -0700, Loki wrote these timeless words:
>OK guys, here's the answer to that whole sleazing/lock-down question
>brought on by the Motion Dectors and Gut Check thread. Looks like
>FASA agrees that skill based sleazing and card text sleazing are two
>seperate things. :o)
>
>---FASACorp2@***.com wrote:
>>
>> Once Motion Detectors and Red Alert are played, Challenges cannot be
>sleazed.
>> However, cards like Feeding Ghouls and Gut Check! are, indeed, an
>exception
>> to this. As you point out, not being able to get past Gut Check! on a
>> successful roll makes no sense (and we are counting on people to use
>some
>> common sense in such situations. We don't want the game to become as
>> convoluted as Magic can be.)
>>
>> Sleep spell would also work against Objectives defended by Red Alert
>and
>> Motion Detectors.
>>
I wouldn;t mind seeing a seperate term made for these cards, rather than
"sleaze". that would clear up a LOT of confusion...

>> There's a comment in your e-mail message that we are behind
>answering mail.
>> As this answer will probably go up on the web, I want to point out
>why we're
>> behind. We've received over 300 questions already! The only people
>at FASA
>> (at the moment) qualified to answer these questions are the SRTCG
>game
>> designers and we are also busy working on 50 new cards for the second
>> printing and 150 new cards for the first expansion. We promise to do
>our best
>> to keep up with questions but we also want to keep bringing you new
>cards
>> (and to sleep, at least occassionally).
>>
>> Thanks for all of the interest!
>>
>> Jim Nelson
>
Understandable there...

And how many of these questions have YOU asked, Loki? :]

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Message no. 3
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fwd: SRTCG question on Sleazing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:36:02 -0700
---Bull wrote:
>
> >---FASACorp2@***.com wrote:
> >>
> >> As this answer will probably go up on the web, I want to point out
> >why we're
> >> behind. We've received over 300 questions already!
>
> And how many of these questions have YOU asked, Loki? :]

I'm probably guilty of some dozen or more. Still, it's all in the line
of duty as SRCard Fearless Leader. ;o)

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Message no. 4
From: Andrew Payne III <smiling_bandit@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fwd: SRTCG question on Sleazing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:07:40 -0700
---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote about Jim Nelsons comments
> There's a comment in your e-mail message that we are behind
> answering mail. As this answer will probably go up on the web, I
want
> to point out why we're behind. We've received over 300 questions
> already! The only people at FASA (at the moment) qualified to answer
> these questions are the SRTCG game designers and we are also busy
> working on 50 new cards for the second printing and 150 new cards
for
> the first expansion. We promise to do our best to keep up with
> questions but we also want to keep bringing you new cards (and to
> sleep, at least occassionally).
>
> Thanks for all of the interest!
>
> Jim Nelson

Maybe we could help them out. I think whats happening is that after a
question is tossed around on the list, five people e-mail FASA looking
for an answer to the same question. I do not think that FASA knows
who is on this list so they try to answer everyone of them
individually. Maybe we should compile a weekly or bi-monthly e-mail
sent to FASA. If noone else can spare the time I do not mind
compiling the list and publishing the questions and their responses on
a web page.

I really want to give FASA as much time designing expansions as they
need to get them to me sooner.

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smiling_bandit@**********.com
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Message no. 5
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Fwd: SRTCG question on Sleazing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:23:41 -0700
---Andrew Payne III wrote:
>
> ---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote about Jim Nelsons comments
> > There's a comment in your e-mail message that we are behind
> > answering mail. As this answer will probably go up on the web, I
> want
> > to point out why we're behind. We've received over 300 questions
> > already! The only people at FASA (at the moment) qualified to
answer
> > these questions are the SRTCG game designers and we are also busy
> > working on 50 new cards for the second printing and 150 new cards
> for
> > the first expansion. We promise to do our best to keep up with
> > questions but we also want to keep bringing you new cards (and to
> > sleep, at least occassionally).
> >
> > Thanks for all of the interest!
> >
> > Jim Nelson
>
> Maybe we could help them out. I think whats happening is that after
a
> question is tossed around on the list, five people e-mail FASA
looking
> for an answer to the same question. I do not think that FASA knows
> who is on this list so they try to answer everyone of them
> individually. Maybe we should compile a weekly or bi-monthly e-mail
> sent to FASA.

Every question on the list I say I'm sending to FASA, goes out
immediately after I've sent that post. I also let them know it's from
the SRTCG mailing list. So at least these question don't need to be
sent duplicate by other members.

If you do send FASA a question, perhaps mention you're on this list as
well, and that you'll be posting their repsonse. That might help them
narrow down how many response need to go out.

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