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Message no. 1
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: We Banned The Dead (Was Re: [FASA] Second Run comments)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:14:37 +0200
> Matrix Decks have Fuchi Industries, Static, Icequeen, Hollywood, Sticky
> Fingers.

I say Kraker Jack go Fuchi, currently the second most successful winning
tactic in tourneys. First is, of course, Trolls and Wake the Dead.

Consequently, we have convinced one tourney provider to ban all "Basher"
Objectives. This is probably not in FASA´s intention, but the majority
of us are just tired of playing "Who gets Stomper and Katana first".
We´re annoyed that FASA made the same mistake again, to produce an
Objective of Cheese (WtD). IMO, the Zombies should have no armor but a
high body value, since they´re supposed to be almost immortal, not
impenetrable.

Felix
Message no. 2
From: Mamoulian <shine@************.NET>
Subject: Re: We Banned The Dead (Was Re: [FASA] Second Run comments)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:57:16 -0600
At 10:14 PM 4/22/98 +0200, you wrote:
>> Matrix Decks have Fuchi Industries, Static, Icequeen, Hollywood, Sticky
>> Fingers.
>
>I say Kraker Jack go Fuchi, currently the second most successful winning
>tactic in tourneys. First is, of course, Trolls and Wake the Dead.
>
>Consequently, we have convinced one tourney provider to ban all "Basher"
>Objectives. This is probably not in FASA´s intention, but the majority
>of us are just tired of playing "Who gets Stomper and Katana first".
>We´re annoyed that FASA made the same mistake again, to produce an
>Objective of Cheese (WtD). IMO, the Zombies should have no armor but a
>high body value, since they´re supposed to be almost immortal, not
>impenetrable.
>
> Felix

I am still partial to the team up theory: Place no challenges on the
person who is using "cheezey" objectives, split up who defends and who
picks up the points. The person using them will quickly get the hint and
play a different deck.

Mamo
Message no. 3
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Re: We Banned The Dead (Was Re: [FASA] Second Run comments)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:32:08 +0200
Mamoulian wrote:
>
> At 10:14 PM 4/22/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >> Matrix Decks have Fuchi Industries, Static, Icequeen, Hollywood, Sticky
> >> Fingers.
> >
> >I say Kraker Jack go Fuchi, currently the second most successful winning
> >tactic in tourneys. First is, of course, Trolls and Wake the Dead.
> >
> >Consequently, we have convinced one tourney provider to ban all
"Basher"
> >Objectives. This is probably not in FASA´s intention, but the majority
> >of us are just tired of playing "Who gets Stomper and Katana first".
> >We´re annoyed that FASA made the same mistake again, to produce an
> >Objective of Cheese (WtD). IMO, the Zombies should have no armor but a
> >high body value, since they´re supposed to be almost immortal, not
> >impenetrable.
> >
> > Felix
>
> I am still partial to the team up theory: Place no challenges on the
> person who is using "cheezey" objectives, split up who defends and who
> picks up the points. The person using them will quickly get the hint and
> play a different deck.
>

Unfortunately, we play one-on-one games only. ---Felix
Message no. 4
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: We Banned The Dead (Was Re: [FASA] Second Run comments)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:21:39 -0600
>>>Consequently, we have convinced one tourney provider to ban all
"Basher" Objectives. This is probably not in FASA´s intention, but the majority
of us are just tired of playing "Who gets Stomper and Katana first". We´re
annoyed that FASA made the same mistake again, to produce an Objective of Cheese (WtD).
IMO, the Zombies should have no armor but a high body value, since they´re supposed to be
almost immortal, not impenetrable.<<<

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I think some of you out there need to work on strategy. I've seen Big
Guy decks get pounded by Mages, Shamans, Riggers, etc. It's all a matter
of deckbuilding and the luck of the draw.
--
mothman@**********.com

"It's more fun to compute"
—Kraftwerk
Message no. 5
From: "(No Name Available)" <mothman@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: We Banned The Dead (Was Re: [FASA] Second Run comments)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:38:18 -0600
>>>Like what, one in a 20? The thing is, prior to underworld (and even with it) a
mage, rigger waht ever deck get pund by some one with enough brains to add a couple of
specials to there big-uns deck (riot, drive etc)<<<

I took 2 out of 3 games against a friend's Big Guy deck. He was using 4
Skwaaaarks, 4 Torgos (in the deck), 4 Gore tusks and 4 Stompers, along
with Rockers (to pay for it all). My Rigger deck beat him, and he was
using nothing but the so-called "cheese" Objectives.

Riggers, Mages and Shamen all have some powerful cards associated with
them.

What strategies are those of you complaining about Big Guy decks using
against them? Their weakness is speed. Attack their ¥, slow them down
with Challenges that work well against them, use Objectives geared
toward your own deck…

I haven't seen Big Guy decks do any better than anything else in the
games we've played. If you are playing 3 or 4 player games, gang up on
the "Big Guy" and beat him down a little. Teach him a lesson.
--
mothman@**********.com

"It's more fun to compute"
—Kraftwerk

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