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> Anybody else find the wording of this card hilarious?
I busting up laughing out loud when I first read it. A friend
didn't get it and ... sadly, I had to explain it. Lost all of its humor
of course. I found most of the cards pretty humorous. My favorite
one if the Feeding Ghouls challenge. "I don't have to outrun them. I
just have to outrun you." Yeah, I heard this before regarding bears,
but it take on so much more with the ghouls. Especially after my friend
had to frag one of his favorite runners. MUAAHAHAHA. (Evil laugh,
normally reserved for my comments as GM.)
> Who do you all want to see in the expansion sets?
> I really want Wolf, Raven and Kid Stealth cards from Mike Stackpole's
> short
> stories!
I would like to see a set of Immortal Elves. Now, wait a minute
before you start flaming me. Wouldn't it feel great to frag Ehran the
Scribe?
Tony
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> > In the meantime, check out some mail order card places..
> And postage and handling would KILL me, plus it would have to go by sea
> (there's no WAY I could pay for air freight) and so by the time it got
> here (2-3 months) it would already be out here.
I don't know..It might not be too very bad. I was surprised when I
was checking on the priced to send Seattle maps overseas..It was only
$3.75 US for the shipping to Aus..Of course a box of cards will be a
bit more..But It shouldn't be too bad..
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---"Steven A. Tinner" wrote:
>
> Anybody else find the wording of this card hilarious?
I remember Bull and I had a good laugh over it. I remember Bull and I
had a good laugh over it.
:o)
> Also, has anyone else already started designing their own cards for
their
> favorite runners?
> Bull and I have worked up a card for most of the major PC's in our
campaign.
>
> Who do you all want to see in the expansion sets?
> I really want Wolf, Raven and Kid Stealth cards from Mike
Stackpole's short
> stories!
Skuzzy was saying they we're looking at putting Sam Verner in (much to
Caric's chagrin). He's thinking that once you delpoy Sam Verner you
must choose whether he's a decker or shaman. Or perhaps he comes in a
decker, but each legwork phase you roll a 1d6 and a 5+ means he's
become a shaman.
I'd also like to see Bandit, Argent and Neko (though Neko probably
won't be out 'til the PhysAd expansion).
Skuzzy had said about 50 cards will be swapped out in the 2nd
printing, and some are slated to be Prime Runners.
-== Loki ==-
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At 03:27 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>---Bull wrote:
>>
>> Hey, just testing things... Am I the first one to post a message? :]
>
>Not counting my first "Test" message, I think Jaymz beat you to it.
>:o)
>
>> And who else is here already? :]
>
>So far, I've seen posts from you, Jaymz and Vael.
>
I'm here. :) hehe.
WD
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"When you can afford to buy the Starter Deck son."
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>>I made a "Piggy" deck of all Orcs and Trolls, but it kinda sucks.
>>Nowhere near enough skills on the trogs in the basic set.
>>Even with monsters like Reaper and Scorpio, anything technical, social, or
>>magical, and my piggys get nuked.
>>
>>However, they do quite well in combat type challeneges!
>>
>Yeah, but you should see 'em try and pop a Maglock...;]
>
>Bull
Lol, yeah, that is a goodie. hehee. Tinner, we got ya covered man.
WD
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At 01:13 AM 8/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I made a "Piggy" deck of all Orcs and Trolls, but it kinda sucks.
>Nowhere near enough skills on the trogs in the basic set.
>Even with monsters like Reaper and Scorpio, anything technical, social, or
>magical, and my piggys get nuked.
>
>However, they do quite well in combat type challeneges!
>
>Steven A. Tinner
Well, Tinner, I made sure to get another Humanis Polyclub card for those
special purposes. Can't wait to use it on ya again.
Thats the only disadvantage that I can see is that one card adding 1 nuyen
to the price of deployment. Now a Human deck on the other hand....
WD
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At 10:07 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>---Lady Jestyr wrote:
>>
>> > Plus, of course, we have some Signed Demo Cards, so...
>>
>> Huh. What's this WE stuff? :)
>>
>> <desperately awaiting the card game>
>
>He's probably referring to our ShadowRN list group that was at GC:
>Bull, Caric, Dvixen and myself.
>
>We each got several cards signed by the artists, figuring it makes
>them even more valuable as collector items.
>
Well, Bull has some unintentional signed cards from the ink transfering onto
other cards backs. Now I wonder, will those be worth more?????
<waves at bull>
WD
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OK, I've pretty much got my "Needs" and the "For Trade/Sale" lists
wrapped up.
It'll take me another day or two to HTMLize them into tables and post
them on my webpage. Right now they're in simple MS Word .doc format,
but if anyone wants a look-see let me know and I'll send you copies.
(Thought this might be a bit much to post the list, but if everyone
would rather just open the floodgates we can go that route too.)
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At 02:47 AM 8/27/97 -0700, Loki wrote:
#OK, I've pretty much got my "Needs" and the "For Trade/Sale" lists
#wrapped up.
#
#It'll take me another day or two to HTMLize them into tables and post
#them on my webpage. Right now they're in simple MS Word .doc format,
#but if anyone wants a look-see let me know and I'll send you copies.
#
#(Thought this might be a bit much to post the list, but if everyone
#would rather just open the floodgates we can go that route too.)
Send it to the list
also, you could use Internet Assistant for word to HTMLize it
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Wind Dancer once dared to write,
>>> Hey, just testing things... Am I the first one to post a message? :]
>>
>>Not counting my first "Test" message, I think Jaymz beat you to it.
>>:o)
>>
>>> And who else is here already? :]
>>
>>So far, I've seen posts from you, Jaymz and Vael.
>>
>
>I'm here. :) hehe.
>
>WD
Yeah, i've made it. I'm still setting up the mail actions on my emailer
though.
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:23:28 -0400
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At 02:47 AM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>them on my webpage. Right now they're in simple MS Word .doc format,
>but if anyone wants a look-see let me know and I'll send you copies.
>
>(Thought this might be a bit much to post the list, but if everyone
>would rather just open the floodgates we can go that route too.)
Please eather open de flood gates or send it my waay to:
winddancer@***********.net
Thanks Loki.
WD
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From: Shawn McCollum <Shawn_McCollum@*********.COM>
Subject: Paolo's Archive ... Where'd it go?
I have been having trouble getting to Paolo's archive at
http://www.interware.it/shadowrun/srtcg all day. Does anyone know
what happened to it?
Andrew Payne III
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From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
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At 12:14 8/27/97 EST, you wrote:
> I have been having trouble getting to Paolo's archive at
> http://www.interware.it/shadowrun/srtcg all day. Does anyone know
> what happened to it?
Since it's been down since early this morning, and Paolo didn't make an
appearance on IRC this morning from either of his accounts, I would assume
some routers are down in/near Italy.
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Any of you guys make a full-blood rigger deck, yet? Some of these
riggers and drones look pretty damn rad. I wish I had a damned
rule book!
-Skye
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At 12:14 PM 8/27/97 EST, Shawn McCollum wrote:
# I have been having trouble getting to Paolo's archive at
# http://www.interware.it/shadowrun/srtcg all day. Does anyone know
# what happened to it?
works for me
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From: Tony Glinka <glinka@**.NETCOM.COM>
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What's everybody opinion on the Prime Runner cards? I tried using
Dodger and Dirk Montgomery last night and found them to be kind of
useless compared to their cost.
I had a decent decker in play already so I never deployed Dodger. I
didn't want to pay the cost each turn. I used Dirk but I got tired of
paying for him. When I drew him I only had one contact left in my deck
so his skill to get contacts was not all that impressive. Then after I
used his skill to get the last contact he was useless. Not real big in
the skills department and a nuyen sink.
I think I may leave these two out of my deck. Are there others that are
awesome to use? Am I using them wrong?
Tony
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Loki wrote:
> (Thought this might be a bit much to post the list, but if everyone
> would rather just open the floodgates we can go that route too.)
Open the floodgates. I can swim....
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Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective card and
at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned runner.
Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
THanks
WD
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From: Shawn McCollum <Shawn_McCollum@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Detectives
When you spend the 3 and turn him you can turn another players
runner. I have only played once, so I am guessing at this senario.
You can use this special trait of archies in on of the greatest ways.
Lets say that another player is going to attempt a run and his first
group of challenges is yours. You know that you put a challenge in
there that needs technical and you notice that the other player only
has one runner with technical. You pay the 3 and turn Archie and
declare that the other players runner with technical is turned also.
Since only unturned runners can go on a run you know that the other
players runners are going to have to face that challenge because they
can no longer as a group sleaze it. This brings up another question.
Lets say someone did the exact same thing to me, can I declare that my
group of shadowrunners is no longer going to attempt that run? If I
could this brings up another way to "bluff" the other players.
Andrew Payne III
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Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective card and
at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned runner.
Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
THanks
WD
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Subject: Re: Detectives
The best combo for my strategy mentioned in the previous post is to
use Archie and Booby Trap IMHO.
Andrew Payne III
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Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective card and
at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned runner.
Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
THanks
WD
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Detectives
I don't think that SRTCG supports as complicated a timing system
as, say, Magic does. Once a player declares that he's going on
a shadowrun and turns his runners to do so, that's it. It's too
late to use Archie McDeven to prevent anyone from going. If
you want to keep (from your previous example) the person with
technical from /not/ going, you need to pay 3 nuyen and turn
Archie during your opponents nuyen/card draw phase or some such.
Therefore, you couldn't use ARchie as a bluff like you described.
- Brett
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From: Shawn McCollum <Shawn_McCollum@*********.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Detectives
I sent off a message to Fasa with the message below, mine and the
initial message. I will post any reply when and if I get it. I also
let them know there was a mailing list incase they want to join.
Andrew Payne III
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Date: 8/27/97 3:18 PM
I don't think that SRTCG supports as complicated a timing system
as, say, Magic does. Once a player declares that he's going on
a shadowrun and turns his runners to do so, that's it. It's too
late to use Archie McDeven to prevent anyone from going. If
you want to keep (from your previous example) the person with
technical from /not/ going, you need to pay 3 nuyen and turn
Archie during your opponents nuyen/card draw phase or some such.
Therefore, you couldn't use ARchie as a bluff like you described.
- Brett
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Subject: Loki's Needs [ Not as long as the Trade list :o) ]
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Ok, a number of you said to just open the floodgates and post my card
lists so here's the first one.
This is my "Need" list to complete my set. Cards are designated as
Common, Uncommon and Rare
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Cards Needed:
RUNNERS
Caeser (R)
Clutch (R)
Da' Profezzur (R)
Dodger (R)
Dr. Apocalypse (R)
Drake (R)
Ghost Who Walks (R)
Gutter Rat (R)
Highbrow (R)
Jack Skater (R)
Kham (R)
Marek (R)
Pappy (R)
Sally Tsung (R)
Scatter (R)
Scorpio (R)
Tempest (R)
Tin Man (R)
Titan (R)
Wheeler (R)
GEAR
Dermal Plating (U)
Doc Wagon (Gold) (U)
Harley Scorpion (U)
HK227 (U)
Sleep (U)
Chip Jack 3 (R)
Crash (R)
Defiance Taser (R)
Doberman Patrol Vehicle (R)
Gyro Stabilizer (R)
Heavy Armor (Full) (R)
Heavy Armor (Partial) (R)
Hellblast (R)
Lucky Wabbits Foot (R)
Monofililament Whip (R)
Redirect Datatrail (R)
Remington 750 (R)
Skillsoft: Athletics (R)
Skillsoft: Demolitions (R)
Skillsoft: Piloting (R)
Skillosft: Stealth (R)
Wired Reflexes (R)
CONTACTS
Humanis Policlub Member (R)
Squatter (R)
The Fat Man (R)
LOCATIONS
The Hideaway (R)
The Z-Zone (R)
OBJECTIVES
Cermak Blast (C)
Courier Run (C)
Eco-War! (U)
Cleanse the Hive (R)
CHALLENGES
Custom System (R)
Elite Security Mage (R)
Flock of Geese (R)
Guardian Earth Elemental (R)
Guardian Fire Elemental (R)
Heavy Sentry Gun (R)
Hellhound (R)
Highway Showdown (R)
Killer Drone (R)
Security Rigger (R)
Steppin' Wulf Ambush (R)
The Big Chase (R)
Time-Delayed Bomb (R)
STINGERS
Blindsided (R)
Brain Freeze (R)
Cowards (R)
Distraction (R)
False Mentor (R)
Just a Rumor (R)
Major Drain (R)
Suicide Run (R)
SPECIALS
Riots (U)
Abducted (R)
Ambidextrous (R)
Cyber-Psychosis (R)
Knock-Knock (R)
Matrix Crash (R)
Red-Alert (R)
Rush Job (R)
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective
card and
> at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned
runner.
>
> Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
He works really nice to turn that last runner your oponent kept to
intercept the shadowrun on your turn.
You can also use him to turn a runner that may have an ability they
can be turned to use on your turn.
If his ability can be used as a Stinger (and I'm not sure if it can or
can't) then you could also turn a runner to keep them from going on an
opponents shadowrun.
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Hey Loki,
Have you told Mike Nielsen about this list yet? I know it's new, but
if he's not too busy he might get some useful insight into our
thoughts on the game, and we could get the "Official Version" (TM) of
all rules disputes. Thought I'd mention it since you met him at Gen
Con.
Robert
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Now the floodgates are really letting loose. Here's my list of cards
available for trade or sale, thus far. I've also designated how many I
have of each.
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Cards available for trade or sale:
RUNNERS
Ajax (10)
Cannonball (6)
Dante (4)
D-day (11)
Glitz (8)
Gore Tusk (6)
Grandfather Bones (6)
Hatchetman (9)
Hollywood (4)
Jack Hammer (5)
Jackyl (5)
Kromagnus (7)
Nightshade (9)
Orion (7)
Redline (5)
Roadrash (5)
Shade (7)
Shasta (7)
Shellshock (2)
Stomper (3)
Syn (4)
Thrash (3)
Turbo (2)
Cherry Bomb (3)
Domino (1)
Red Widow (3)
Sam the Sleuth (2)
Scarecrow (3)
Stiletto (1)
The Mole (2)
The Preacher (3)
Tinkerball (3)
Uncle Joe (2)
Viper (1)
Dirk Montgomery (1)
Lord Torgo (1)
Adam Bomb (1)
GEAR
Ally Spirit (9)
Ares Predator (8)
Armored Vest (4)
Astral Sense (6)
Black Hammer (12)
Bolt of Power (11)
Browse (11)
Ceska vz/120 (11)
Chipjack 1 (5)
Crawler Patrol Drone (8)
Cyberarm (6)
Detect Enemy (5)
Elemental (4)
Evaluate (7)
Explosive Rounds (11)
Hand Razors (7)
Hog (6)
Hunter Drone (6)
Invisibility (6)
Katana (7)
Roto-drone (6)
Silencer (6)
Skillsoft: Firearms (7)
Skillsoft: Melee (9)
Sony CTY-360 (6)
Stim Patch (6)
Streetline Special (7)
Uzi III (6)
Vindicator Minigun (4)
Watcher Spirit (4)
Yamaha Rapier (5)
Armor Spell (2)
Armor Skin (4)
Automated Patrol Vehicle (3)
Beretta (1)
Bulldog Van (2)
Chipjack 2 (2)
City Spirit (2)
Fireball (1)
Flechette Rounds (2)
FN HAR (1)
Foretelling (1)
Fuchi Cyber-6 (1)
Laser Scope (1)
Lined Coat (1)
Nature Spirit (1)
Ranger X (1)
Ruger Super Warhawk (4)
Skillsoft: Gunnery (1)
Skillsoft: Social (1)
Skillsoft: Technical (1)
Microskimmer (3)
Steamroller (1)
Walther Palm Pistol (2)
Armor-Piercing Ammo (1)
Sticky Fingers (1)
Stun Gloves (1)
CONTACTS
Bounty Hunter (3)
Corporate Secretary (2)
Elven Hitman (4)
Media Chick (1)
Mr. Johnson (1)
Fringe Surgeon (1)
Gang Leader (3)
Mr. Black (3)
Troll Bouncer (1)
Yoshimo Chang (1)
LOCATIONS
Caves of Halverville (2)
The Iron Lung (4)
The Warehouse (4)
Tir Tairngire (3)
Chop Shop (1)
Club Vortex (1)
Decker Coffeehouse (1)
The Ork Underground (1)
OBJECTIVES
Extraction (1)
Fort Knocks (1)
Gang War (1)
Harlequin's Game (3)
Haunted High Rise (3)
Milk Run (2)
Mob War! (1)
Operation Cottonmouth (1)
Protect and Defend (1)
Robo-plant Revolt (1)
Shadowplay (1)
Fusion Run (2)
Operation Up and Over (2)
Ragnarock (2)
Urban Brawl (2)
Dunklezahn's Black Book (1)
CHALLENGES
Ambushed En Route (10)
Basilisk (2)
Booby Trap (5)
Corpselight (10)
Electrified Fence (9)
Feeding Ghouls (6)
Gut Check (11)
Hellish Traffic (5)
Hit and Run (5)
Lone Star Patrol (5)
Maglocks (8)
Mine Field (4)
Nets (6)
Retinal Scanner (6)
Securint Camera (2)
Security Drone (4)
Security Guards (4)
Sentry Gun (3)
Street Scum (6)
Voice Print I.D. (6)
Yak Attack (3)
Ambush (2)
Ancient's Turf (1)
Eyekiller (1)
Double Jeopardy! (1)
Halloweener Hell (2)
Integrated Control Center (2)
Knight Errant Guards (1)
Mage Strike Force (2)
Poison Gas Trap (1)
Razorhead Turf (3)
Sabotaged Controls (1)
Security Consultant (3)
Sim Sensation (2)
Swarm of Drones (2)
Toxic Spirit (1)
Astral Sentry (2)
Motion Detectors (1)
STINGERS
Deja' Vu (4)
Green Apple Quicksteps (6)
Loaded Dice (6)
Luck o' the Irish (4)
Moonlighting (8)
Bad Reputation (1)
Blazing Guns (1)
Ricochet (2)
Change of Plans (2)
No Way Out (2)
Reinforcements (2)
Rough Night (2)
Tactics: Scatter (3)
Whoops! (3)
Wild Goose Chase (1)
SPECIALS
Bad Lunch (5)
Bar Fight (2)
Block Party (2)
Bugged Deck (2)
Cover Up (2)
Drive-By (1)
Even Steven (2)
Infected Chrome (1)
Rampaging Mutant (1)
Wanted (3)
Nerps! (1)
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---Brett Barksdale wrote:
>
> I don't think that SRTCG supports as complicated a timing system
> as, say, Magic does. Once a player declares that he's going on
> a shadowrun and turns his runners to do so, that's it. It's too
> late to use Archie McDeven to prevent anyone from going. If
> you want to keep (from your previous example) the person with
> technical from /not/ going, you need to pay 3 nuyen and turn
> Archie during your opponents nuyen/card draw phase or some such.
Agreed. SRTCG's timing system is very simple. Whoever's turn it is
goes first. So to use Archie effectively in this method, you'd have to
chose a particular runner and turn them some time before the Shadowrun
phase (and obvioulsy after the refresh phase).
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---Robert Blackberg III wrote:
>
> Hey Loki,
>
> Have you told Mike Nielsen about this list yet? I know it's new, but
> if he's not too busy he might get some useful insight into our
> thoughts on the game, and we could get the "Official Version" (TM) of
> all rules disputes. Thought I'd mention it since you met him at Gen
> Con.
I sent Skuzzy and invite yesterday, in fact. He's been really busy
with the Underworld expansion and preparing for the 2nd printing. So
don't be disappointed if he doesn't make an appearance.
I agree with you though and would like to see him stick his head in
the door and say "hi."
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#Adam Bomb (1)
#Nerps! (1)
Hey Loki, whaddya want for these 2?
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---Shawn McCollum wrote:
>
> This brings up another question.
> Lets say someone did the exact same thing to me, can I declare
that my
> group of shadowrunners is no longer going to attempt that run?
If I
> could this brings up another way to "bluff" the other players.
No, the way I uderstand it, once you've declared a Shadowrun you must
at least encounter the first challenge before declaring you're going
to pull out. (Of course an "No Way Out" or "All or Nothing" stinger
forces you to go futher, and a Yamaha Rapier allows a runner to return
to the safe house.) Under normal circumstances though, at least that
first challenge will have to be dealt with.
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At 02:39 PM 8/27/97 EST, Shawn McCollum wrote these timeless words:
> This brings up another question.
> Lets say someone did the exact same thing to me, can I declare that my
> group of shadowrunners is no longer going to attempt that run? If I
> could this brings up another way to "bluff" the other players.
>
I'd have to say that No, you can't. I think once you declare an action,
like a Shadowrun, you're stuck with it. Same thing with once you declare
that you will face the next challenge. If something happens to your team,
your screwed....
Bull
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At 02:17 PM 8/27/97 -0400, Wind Dancer wrote these timeless words:
>Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective card and
>at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned runner.
>
>Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
>
>THanks
>
Exactly how that reads...
YOu can use him to Turn an opponents Runner, thus he can't use that runner
that turn...
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At 09:57 AM 8/27/97 -0800, Skye Comstock wrote these timeless words:
>Any of you guys make a full-blood rigger deck, yet? Some of these
>riggers and drones look pretty damn rad. I wish I had a damned
>rule book!
>
Not yet, but I think, but that's because I simply don;t have enough
Rigger's and Drones yet. plus, as far as I can tell, a straight Rigger
deck will suffer the same way several other decks do... Not diverse enough
skills, though they would prob do well in the combats...
So far the best decks I seen have been ones with a little of eevrything...
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At 10:50 AM 8/27/97 -0700, Tony Glinka wrote these timeless words:
>What's everybody opinion on the Prime Runner cards? I tried using
>Dodger and Dirk Montgomery last night and found them to be kind of
>useless compared to their cost.
>
>I had a decent decker in play already so I never deployed Dodger. I
>didn't want to pay the cost each turn. I used Dirk but I got tired of
>paying for him. When I drew him I only had one contact left in my deck
>so his skill to get contacts was not all that impressive. Then after I
>used his skill to get the last contact he was useless. Not real big in
>the skills department and a nuyen sink.
>
>I think I may leave these two out of my deck. Are there others that are
>awesome to use? Am I using them wrong?
>
Probably... I also have Dodger and don;t use him. There are cheaper
deckers out there, and my deck isn;t based around deckers...
Dirk, however, I wouldn;t use unless you put in a lot of contacts... If
you're only using a couple, you've wasted his special, especially if you
don;t get him out early... What are his stats and skills?
I have 2 that I love... Jack Skater is great. A 4/6 with a couple skills,
plus an ungodly Leadership (equal to the number of runners with him:)).
I also use Wheeler a lot. When he's put in play, you get to give him a
Vehicle from your deck for free... I love slapping a Bulldog on him...;]
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This is mostly for Lady J, but I asked FASAMktg about teh CCG in Australia,
and this is what I got back... Enjoy, and Good Luck...
Bull
>From: FASAMktg@***.com
>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
>To: chaos@*****.com
>Subject: Re: SRTCG
>
>Hi,
>
>It is already there. We ahve already heard from players in Australia who
>have it in their hands.
>
>Ask your local retailer, it is available.
>
>Thanks.
>
>FASA
>
>
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At 10:50 AM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>What's everybody opinion on the Prime Runner cards? I tried using
>Dodger and Dirk Montgomery last night and found them to be kind of
>useless compared to their cost.
From what I have seen, from the Primes that I have, they sometimes arent
worth using, or even having in your deck. The Profezzor is ok, but nothing
more than a sammie with melee 2 and the ability for 2 nuyen to give him tech
one.... Kinda disapointing.
WD
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At 02:56 PM 8/27/97 EST, you wrote:
> The best combo for my strategy mentioned in the previous post is to
> use Archie and Booby Trap IMHO.
>
>
> Andrew Payne III
Hmm, well, I will definitly try that. I can see the knowledge there.
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At 12:05 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I don't think that SRTCG supports as complicated a timing system
>as, say, Magic does. Once a player declares that he's going on
>a shadowrun and turns his runners to do so, that's it. It's too
>late to use Archie McDeven to prevent anyone from going. If
>you want to keep (from your previous example) the person with
>technical from /not/ going, you need to pay 3 nuyen and turn
>Archie during your opponents nuyen/card draw phase or some such.
>
>Therefore, you couldn't use ARchie as a bluff like you described.
>
>- Brett
>
>
Hmmm, Well, I will ask Loki for a rules clarification then :)
WD
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At 01:20 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>He works really nice to turn that last runner your oponent kept to
>intercept the shadowrun on your turn.
Yeah, that could work, but then there are the other people who are playing..
>If his ability can be used as a Stinger (and I'm not sure if it can or
>can't) then you could also turn a runner to keep them from going on an
>opponents shadowrun.
How do we get a definit answer on the above stinger preposal....?
WD
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: List of have's
I am interested in anyone's list of HAVEs and WANTs who care to email
them to me. I am putting together my lists for any who may be interested
in mine..
- Brett
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At 01:24 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Agreed. SRTCG's timing system is very simple. Whoever's turn it is
>goes first. So to use Archie effectively in this method, you'd have to
>chose a particular runner and turn them some time before the Shadowrun
>phase (and obvioulsy after the refresh phase).
>
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So what you are saying is that this runner can be used at any time as long
as it is after the refresh phase of another players turn....
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>So far the best decks I seen have been ones with a little of eevrything...
^^^^^^
That seems to be the key word. So how does one know if your still in the
little area....
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At 05:12 PM 8/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>YOu can use him to Turn an opponents Runner, thus he can't use that runner
>that turn...
ok, but at what point in the round can I use him? as in, during what
actions can I not use him? I know that refresh of targeted player would be
ideotic, but what others. During the legwork phase?
WD
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>SPECIALS
>Bad Lunch (5)
>Bar Fight (2)
>Block Party (2)
>Bugged Deck (2)
>Cover Up (2)
>Drive-By (1)
>Even Steven (2)
>Infected Chrome (1)
>Rampaging Mutant (1)
>Wanted (3)
>Nerps! (1)
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I will buy your nerps Loki. How much ya want....
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:12:35 -0700
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Brett's RARE trade list
I also have significantly more UNCOMMON cards to trade, but I haven't
had time to compile that list yet. If there is something specific you're
looking for, let me know...
If you are interested in any of the following cards, please send me a
list of what rare cards you have to trade. My need list is a heck of
a lot longer than my trade list below, so it's probably easier that
way...
Rares for trade
---------------
Adam Bomb (*)
Lord Torgo
Marek (2 for trade)
Moonshadow
Ripper
Highway Showdown
Dunklezahn's Black Book
Impossible Mission
Kamikaze Run
Ares Macrotechnology
Saeder-Krupp
Shadowland
The Hideaway
The Fat Man (2 for trade)
Yoshimo Chang
NERPS (3 for trade) (*)
(*) I am not particularly willing to trade these promo cards for cards that
can be obtained from normal boosters. If someone wants to make a /really/
good trade offer, than maybe. But since FASA (in their infinite stupidity,
IMNSHO) is going to force us to buy multiple copies of the same magazines that
most of us don't read in the first place to get the other promo cards, I
am leaning towards keeping these promo cards and trading them to get the
/other/ promo cards (Hatchetman 2057, Foxy Roxy, etc.)
- Brett Barksdale
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From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
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I'm buying a box, I'm buying a box...
rtgames.com can get me a box of boosters, shipped air freight (2 weeks)
for just over $100 US including shipping. In Australian money this works
out to be slightly less than I'd pay for a box here anyway. And I get if
in two weeks, instead of howebver long it's gonna take to get here.
First thing tomorrow morning, I'm orderingh me a box! Yeehar!
Lady Jestyr
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:25:32 -0700
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---Jaymz wrote:
>
> #Adam Bomb (1)
> #Nerps! (1)
>
> Hey Loki, whaddya want for these 2?
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> I will buy your nerps Loki. How much ya want....
Since these are promo's I'm holding out to trade each one for three
other rare's I don't have.
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:39:31 -0700
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> >If his ability can be used as a Stinger (and I'm not sure if it can
or
> >can't) then you could also turn a runner to keep them from going on
an
> >opponents shadowrun.
>
> How do we get a definit answer on the above stinger preposal....?
I'll be emailing Skuzzy on something else tonight, so I'll ask him
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:55:36 PDT
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From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.COM>
Subject: Starters
Do ALL starters have the same handful of runners, drones, challenges, and gear?
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:01:39 -0700
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> >Therefore, you couldn't use ARchie as a bluff like you described.
>
> Hmmm, Well, I will ask Loki for a rules clarification then :)
Just shot an email off to FASA/Skuzzy. I'll post the repsonse when I
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:07:53 -0700
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> So what you are saying is that this runner can be used at any time
as long
> as it is after the refresh phase of another players turn....
You could even use him then, but your oponent would just unturn the
card afterwards. :o)
Yes, I'd say you could use Archie to turn a runner you didn't want
eligible to join a Shadowrun anytime up to when the runner would be
turned for the 'Run. Primarily this would happen during your
opponent's Legwork phase.
This would also apply to turning runners to prevent other abilities.
Liek Kromagnus earning nu yen during your opponent's legwork, or
deckers that do recon.
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:14:13 -0400
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>If you are interested in any of the following cards, please send me a
>list of what rare cards you have to trade. My need list is a heck of
>a lot longer than my trade list below, so it's probably easier that
>way...
>
>NERPS (3 for trade) (*)
If you could, I would like to purchase a nerps card....
name a price.
WD
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:14:27 -0400
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At 03:25 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Since these are promo's I'm holding out to trade each one for three
>other rare's I don't have.
Loci, how about three from these here.
Dodger (R)
Da Profezzor (R)
Tin Man (2 - R)
Defiance Tazer (R)
Humanis Polyclub Member (R)
Custom System (R)
Time Delay Bomb (R)
Distraction (R)
False Mentor (2 - R)
These are the rares that I have that you need. Whadda Want fer the nerps....
WD
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> At 03:25 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >Since these are promo's I'm holding out to trade each one for three
> >other rare's I don't have.
>
> Dodger (R)
> Da Profezzor (R)
> Tin Man ( R)
>
> These are the rares that I have that you need. Whadda Want fer the
nerps....
I'd be insterested in trading Nerps! for these three. Write me in
private and we'll work out swapping snail mail addresses and such.
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At 04:01 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>---Wind Dancer wrote:
>>
>> >Therefore, you couldn't use ARchie as a bluff like you described.
>>
>> Hmmm, Well, I will ask Loki for a rules clarification then :)
>
>Just shot an email off to FASA/Skuzzy. I'll post the repsonse when I
>get it.
>
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---Benjamin wrote:
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> Do ALL starters have the same handful of runners, drones,
challenges, and gear?
Different decks will have different cards (trust me I've bought enough
of them. :o) However, they follow the same formula for number of
rares, uncommons and commons in each deck. Can't remember how many of
each off hand (3 rares, but can't remember the rest).
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From: Skye Comstock <bilbo@****.NWLINK.COM>
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>Exactly how that reads...
>
>YOu can use him to Turn an opponents Runner, thus he can't use that runner
>that turn...
It's kind of like that one Magic card that could do stuff like that...
Like, if the guy has a Skwraaaaaark out, you can keep him from
using it, which is cool.
Oh, here's something I was messing with when I was looking at
the cards.
Lets say I have three Riots in my hand, in the SRTCG, could I just
drop all three at the same time, therefore causing 6 damage
to everyone? This would be cool with a Skwrark because you could
nail almost everyone and the big Cyborg could clean up, or
something...
Wish I knew how this game worked. :P
-Skye
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---Skye Comstock wrote:
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> Any of you guys make a full-blood rigger deck, yet? Some of these
> riggers and drones look pretty damn rad. I wish I had a damned
> rule book!
I've got a combo deck of Riggers, Mages and Fighters (Sammies,
Gangers, Mercs).
FASA is going to be posting on online rulebook if all else fails. :o)
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
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>>Exactly how that reads...
>>
>>YOu can use him to Turn an opponents Runner, thus he can't use that runner
>>that turn...
>It's kind of like that one Magic card that could do stuff like that...
>Like, if the guy has a Skwraaaaaark out, you can keep him from
>using it, which is cool.
Yeah, but a 3 nuyen a pop, Archie gets pretty spendy... :-)
Archie's great, but I definitely think you gotta pick your
spots with him.
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---Skye Comstock wrote:
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> Lets say I have three Riots in my hand, in the SRTCG, could I just
> drop all three at the same time, therefore causing 6 damage
> to everyone? This would be cool with a Skwrark because you could
> nail almost everyone and the big Cyborg could clean up, or
> something...
Unless the card is designated Unique, where you could only have one in
the deck, I don't see why you couldn't do this.
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Here's a good question that's arose as I've been working out two
offers to trade some cards.
What is the best way for getting the swapped cards from one party yo
another? I'm not expecting any list members will be out to screw each
other over, but here's what I've been considering as a method:
U.S. Mail (or int'l as case may be) with Return Receipt. This way the
cards ned to be signed for and you'll receive written confirmation the
other party got them.
Also, priority mail gives you that snazzy cardboard letter carrier to
avoid bent cards plus faster delivery.
All in all, you're looking about $4.00 U.S. postage if I recall costs
correctly. (Int'l will vary, of course.)
Anyone have other suggestions or opinions?
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On 27 Aug 97 at 17:41, Loki wrote:
> What is the best way for getting the swapped cards from one party yo
> another? I'm not expecting any list members will be out to screw
> each other over, but here's what I've been considering as a method:
>
> U.S. Mail (or int'l as case may be) with Return Receipt. This way
> the cards need to be signed for and you'll receive written
> confirmation the other party got them.
>
> Also, priority mail gives you that snazzy cardboard letter carrier
> to avoid bent cards plus faster delivery.
>
> All in all, you're looking about $4.00 U.S. postage if I recall
> costs correctly. (Int'l will vary, of course.)
Loki, that is the best way to go. It is the most secure, and
relatively cheap. And they track those packages, so you don't have to
worry as much about lost shipments.
Also, they don't take many moons to arrive either. Generally 4-5 days
in the continental US.
For a second choice, I would say UPS Orange (3-day) is a good route,
too. About 5-6 dollars for less than one pound, guaranteed three day
delivery, and you have to sign for it. Another nice thing is if you
trade for cash, you can send COD with them, I believe.
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>Here's a good question that's arose as I've been working out two
>offers to trade some cards.
>
>All in all, you're looking about $4.00 U.S. postage if I recall costs
>correctly. (Int'l will vary, of course.)
$4.00 for postage is idiotic. I've sent Magic cards to people
before via US mail. I put the card(s) in a hard plastic sleeve,
put that in a good envelope, and sent it. ;) If it gets lost,
tough shit. If it was a Moxen or somehting, then yeah, I'd
try to make sure it would get there, but other than that...
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---Skye Comstock wrote:
>
> $4.00 for postage is idiotic. I've sent Magic cards to people
> before via US mail. I put the card(s) in a hard plastic sleeve,
> put that in a good envelope, and sent it. ;) If it gets lost,
> tough shit. If it was a Moxen or somehting, then yeah, I'd
> try to make sure it would get there, but other than that...
Both of the deals I'm working on involve three or more rares (one is
for a Nerps!).
The Return Receipt also isn't so much whether the card got lost, but
to remove uncomfortable situations over the person _saying_ the card
was lost.
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At 05:41 PM 8/27/97 -0700, Loki wrote:
#All in all, you're looking about $4.00 U.S. postage if I recall costs
#correctly. (Int'l will vary, of course.)
$3 actually
#
#Anyone have other suggestions or opinions?
should probably enacse in plasti card carrier?
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> #Anyone have other suggestions or opinions?
>
> should probably enacse in plasti card carrier?
Yeah, I was already planning to have any cards I send out in their own
little plastic card condoms (afterall I practice safe gaming :o) .
Seriously though, it'll help if it gets rained on or whatever.
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At 07:15 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Yeah, I was already planning to have any cards I send out in their own
>little plastic card condoms (afterall I practice safe gaming :o) .
>
>Seriously though, it'll help if it gets rained on or whatever.
Are those going to be soft or hard covers Loki? Whadda ya vant me to uuse?
WD
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> At 07:15 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, I was already planning to have any cards I send out in their
own
> >little plastic card condoms (afterall I practice safe gaming :o) .
> >
> >Seriously though, it'll help if it gets rained on or whatever.
>
> Are those going to be soft or hard covers Loki? Whadda ya vant me
to uuse?
Soft covers, I still got 50+ left from a mass purchase at GC.
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>Soft covers, I still got 50+ left from a mass purchase at GC.
ok, I got to go and get some then... :]
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Ok, so what does the description of what this challenge really mean.
<I am having a bad time with a few of these...>
WD
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> >Soft covers, I still got 50+ left from a mass purchase at GC.
>
> ok, I got to go and get some then... :]
I wouldn't go out of your way to purchase card condoms just for that
purpose. A zip-lock baggie could work just as well.
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Loki wrote:
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> ---Bull wrote:
> >
> > Here's a question for all of you (What, all 6 of you? :))
>
> I think we're getting close to 10 now: Bull, Tinner, Lady Jestyr,
> Granite, Vael, Drekhead, Tony, Jaymz, Gweedo, who else? :o)
Don't forget the world's first lurker, me!
;P
> > Plus, of course, we have some Signed Demo Cards, so...
>
> You gotta figure a card signed by the artist would just increase it's
> value. Still, I'm trying to keep an unsigned copy with its signed
> counterpart (when I have one) in my complete set. Who knows, I may be
> dealing with a really anal collector in the future. :o)
Like two signed nerps? Pity I had to leave, I wanted to get more cards,
they are damned expensive ehre...
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>
>I wouldn't go out of your way to purchase card condoms just for that
>purpose. A zip-lock baggie could work just as well.
Hmm, good idea... :)
Do you have the meathod of Shipment figured out yet?
WD
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Ok ya'll, here is my trade list.
Number is how many.
Runners
Ajax (4)
Cannonball (1)
Dante (1)
D-day (4)
Glitz (3)
Gore Tusk (4)
Hatchetman (2)
Jack Hammer (2)
Shasta (3)
Stomper (2)
Turbo (5)
Domino (1)
Static (1)
The Mole (1)
Gear
Ally Spirit (3)
Ares Predator (2)
Armed Vest (1)
Astral Sense (3)
Black Hammer (3)
Bolt Of Power (3)
Browse (4)
Ceska vz/120 (3)
Chipjack 1 (4)
Crawler Patrol Drone (4)
Detect enemy (1)
Elemental (2)
Evaluate (3)
Explosive Rounds (2)
Sony CTY-360 (2)
Stim Patch (1)
Vindicator Minigun (1)
Watcher Spirit (2)
Extended Clip (1)
FireBall (2)
Flechette Rounds (2)
Contacts
Corperate Secretary (1)
Elven Hitman (2)
Media Chick (3)
Mr. Johnson (3)
Locations
Caves of Halverville (2)
Tir Tairngire (1)
Objectives
Critter Hunt (1)
Extraction (1)
Fort Knocks (1)
Gange War (1)
Harlequin's Game (1)
haunted Highrise (1)
Cake Walk (1)
Crossfire (1)
Fusion Run (1)
Challenges
Ambushed En Route (2)
Basilisk (1)
Booby Trap (3)
Corpselight (4)
Electrified Fence (4)
Feeding Ghouls (3)
Gut Check (2)
Nets (1)
Retinal Scanner (4)
Security Guards (1)
Street Scum (2)
Voiceprint I.D. (3)
Yak Attack (5)
Double Jeopardy (2)
Manticor (1)
Razorhead Turf (1)
Sabotaged Controls (1)
Stingers
Deja'Vu (3)
Green Apple Quicksteps (2)
Loaded Dice (3)
Luck o' the Irish (3)
Moonlighting (2)
Bad Reputation (2)
Tactics: Scatter (1)
Whoops! (1)
False Mentor (1)
Specials
Drive-By (1)
Let me know!
WD
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
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> >
> >I wouldn't go out of your way to purchase card condoms just for that
> >purpose. A zip-lock baggie could work just as well.
>
>
> Hmm, good idea... :)
>
> Do you have the meathod of Shipment figured out yet?
Just sent you a private email on wrapping that up.
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Current Need List. Will change once I get some more money... :]
All are classified by Common, Uncommon and Rare
Runners
Hollywood (C)
Nightshade (C)
Orion (C)
Redline (C)
Roadrash (C)
Shade (C)
Thrash (C)
Knuckles (U)
Macabre (U)
Razorback (U)
Reaper (U)
Red Widow (U)
Sam the Sleuth (U)
Viper (U)
WishBone (U)
Bam Bam (R)
Ceaser (R)
Clutch (R)
Dirk Montgomery (R)
Dr. Apocalypse (R)
Drake (R)
FastJack(R)
Ghost Who Walks (R)
Grizzly (R)
Gutter Rat (R)
HighBrow (R)
Iron Mike (R)
Jack Skater (R)
Kham (R)
Lord Torgo (R)
Marek (R)
Moon Shadow (R)
Pappy (R)
Ravage (R)
Ripper (R)
Sally Tsung (R)
Scatter (R)
Scorpio (R)
Skag (R)
Skwaaaark (R)
Tiny (R)
Titan (R)
Wheeler (R)
Gear
Hunter Drone (C)
Invisibility (C)
Katana (C)
Roto-Drone (C)
Silencer (C)
Skillsoft: Firearms (C)
Skillsoft: Melee (C)
Streetline Special (C)
City Spirit (U)
FN Mag-5 (U)
FNHAR (U)
Foretelling (U)
Fuchi Cyber-6 (U)
Harley Scorpion (U)
HK227 (U)
Ingram Valiant (U)
Laser Scope (U)
Lined Coat (U)
Muscle Replacement (U)
Nature Spirit (U)
Ranger X (U)
Ruger Super Warhawk (U)
Skillsoft: Gunnery (U)
Skillsoft: Social (U)
Skillsoft: Technical (U)
Sleaze (U)
Sleep (U)
Microskimmer (U)
Steamroller (U)
Walther Palm Pistol (U)
Bullet barrier (R)
Camo (R)
Chipjack 3 (R)
Cortex Bomb (R)
Crash (R)
Doberman Patrol Vehicle (R)
Doc Wagon Plat. (R)
Fairlight Excaliber (R)
Gyro Stabilizer (R)
Heavy Armor-Full (R)
Heavy Armor-Partial (R)
Hellblast (R)
Lucky Wabbit's Foot (R)
Monofilament Whip (R)
Panther Assult Cannon (R)
PRC-44b Yellowjacket (R)
Ranger Arms (R)
Redirect Datatrail (R)
Remington 750 (R)
Skillsoft: Athletics (R)
Skillsoft: Demolitions (R)
Skillsoft: Piloting (R)
Skillsoft: Stealth (R)
Stun Gloves (R)
Wired Reflexes (R)
Contacts
Bounty Hunter (C)
Fringe Surgeon (U)
Ganger Leader (U)
Mr. Black (U)
Talismonger (U)
Troll Bouncer (U)
Squatter (R)
THe Fat Man (R)
Yoshimo Chang (R)
Locations
Decker Coffeehouse (U)
Hermetic Library (U)
Ares Macrotechnology (R)
Aztechnology (R)
Renraku (R)
Saeder-Krupp (R)
Shadowland (R)
Sniper Roost (R)
The Festering Tusk (R)
The Hideaway (R)
The Z-Zone (R)
Objectives
Assassination (C)
Cermak Blast (C)
Courier Run (C)
Milk Run (C)
Mob War (C)
Operation Cottonmouth (C)
Protect and Defend (C)
Robo-Plant Revolt (C)
ShadowPlay (C)
Site of Power (C)
Steal Wiz Softs (C)
Sucker Run (C)
Tiki Head Enigma (C)
Wetwork (C)
Operation Up and Over (U)
Ragnarock (U)
Cleanse The Hive (R)
Dragon Hunt (R)
Dunkelzahn's Black Book (R)
Impossible Mission (R)
Kamikaze Run (R)
Room 5b78 (R)
Challenges
Hit And Run (C)
Lone Star Patrol (C)
Maglocks (C)
Mine Field (C)
Sentry Gun (C)
Ancient's Turf (U)
EyeKiller (U)
Free Spirit (U)
Fusion Gate (U)
Halloweener Hell (U)
Hunting Gargoyles (U)
Integrated Control Center (U)
Knight Errant Guards (U)
Barney Phyffe (R)
Elite Security Mage (R)
Flock of Geese (R)
Guardian Dracoform (R)
Guardian Earth Elemental (R)
Guardian Fire Elemental (R)
Hevey Sentry Gun (R)
Hellhound (R)
Highway Showdown (R)
Incubus (R)
Killer Drone (R)
Motion Detectors (R)
Runners On Retainer (R)
Security Decker (R)
Security Rigger (R)
Steppin' Wulf Ambush (R)
The Big Chase (R)
Specials (stingers)
Change of Plans (U)
No Way Out (U)
Reinforcements (U)
Rough Night (U)
Wild Goose Chase (U)
All Or Nothing (R)
Blindsided (R)
Brain Freeze (R)
Tactics: Converge (R)
Cowards (R)
Just a Rumor (R)
Lofwyr's Schemes (R)
Major Drain (R)
Suicide Run (R)
Special
Bad Lunch (C)
Bugged Deck (U)
Even Steven (U)
Rampaging Mutant (U)
Abducted! (R)
Ambidextrous (R)
Cyber-phychosis (R)
Knock-Knock (R)
Matrix Crash (R)
red Alert (R)
Rush Job (R)
If You have any of the above and need anything from my trade list, let me know.
WD
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From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Shit City
Man, am I pissed.
Spent the whole evening after work driving to the three (yep, count
em three) different hobby stores in the Dayton area, and not one had
the SRCCG. One of them never heard of it!
Man, this town is lame. It's not like Dayton is in BFE.
Sorry to rant, just made me mad, because I want this game!
I am going to sulk now... and check out the mail order links Loki
sent me. (Thanks, Lokster.)
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> I am going to sulk now... and check out the mail order links Loki
> sent me. (Thanks, Lokster.)
Null persp, also get with Lady J. she seemed to track down someone to
mail order from and it sounded like a good deal.
Also, I haven't checked, but is the SRTCG listed on FASA's order form?
I've ordered a few books directly from them in the past and the turn
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Yippee! I have meself the TCG! Woohoo!
Went out this morning and bought myself a box of boosters + 1 starter
pack. Spent the last three hours sorting them all out. Trades and Wants
lists are in the works.
Me a happy bunny wunny kins!
Lady Jestyr
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---Lady Jestyr wrote:
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> Yippee! I have meself the TCG! Woohoo!
>
> Went out this morning and bought myself a box of boosters + 1 starter
> pack. Spent the last three hours sorting them all out. Trades and
Wants
> lists are in the works.
>
> Me a happy bunny wunny kins!
Congrats!
Let me know if you need another glance through my Needs/Trades. I'll
send it private this time. (Also, needing to update the trade list
once the deals I'm currently working on are confirmed.)
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> > Do ALL starters have the same handful of runners, drones,
> challenges, and gear?
>
> Different decks will have different cards (trust me I've bought enough
> of them. :o) However, they follow the same formula for number of
> rares, uncommons and commons in each deck. Can't remember how many of
> each off hand (3 rares, but can't remember the rest).
Feeling exceedingly ripped off - the starter I bought today only had two
rares. :( However, the boosters all had four uncommons so that cheered
me up. :)
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> I've got a combo deck of Riggers, Mages and Fighters (Sammies,
> Gangers, Mercs).
I'm tempted to make a decker.rigger deck. When I was opening all my
boosters today the last three rares I got were, in order, FastJack,
Dodger, and Fairlight Excalibur.
I think it's fate or something. :)
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> > I've got a combo deck of Riggers, Mages and Fighters (Sammies,
> > Gangers, Mercs).
>
> I'm tempted to make a decker.rigger deck. When I was opening all my
> boosters today the last three rares I got were, in order, FastJack,
> Dodger, and Fairlight Excalibur.
>
> I think it's fate or something. :)
Bull had Dodger and a Fairlight right after each other in his first
deck. He said the same thing.
I now have Fastjack, a Fairlight and a Fuchi 6 but they're for my
complete set and in safely tucked in a binder. Dodger is one of the
rares I'm trading WindDancer for.
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WANTS:
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Grandfather Bones (C)
Jack Hammer (C)
Shellshock (C)
Razorback (U)
Reaper (U)
Red Widow (U)
Sam the Sleuth (U)
Wishbone (U)
Archie McDeven (R)
Bam Bam (R)
Caeser (R)
Clutch (R)
Da' Profezzur (R)
Dirk Montgomery (R)
Dr. Apocalypse (R)
Drake (R)
Lord Torgo (R)
Marek (R)
Moon Shadow (R)
Pappy (R)
Ravage (R)
Ripper (R)
Sally Tsung (R)
Scorpio (R)
Skag (R)
Skwaaaark (R)
Tempest (R)
Tin Man (R)
Tiny (R)
Titan (R)
Wheeler (R)
Hatchetman 2057 (R*)
Flatline (R*)
Foxy Roxy (R*)
Adam Bomb (R*)
Watcher Spirit (C)
Yamaha Rapier (C)
Ruger Super Warhawk (U)
Skillsoft: Gunnery (U)
Skillsoft: Social (U)
Skillsoft: Technical (U)
Sleaze (U)
Sleep (U)
Microskimmer (U)
Steamroller (U)
Walther Palm Pistol (U)
Armor-Piercing Ammo (R)
Bullet Barrier (R)
Camo (R)
Chipjack 3 (R)
Cortex Bomb (R)
Crash (R)
Defiance Taser (R)
Doberman Patrol Vehicle (R)
Doc Wagon (Platinum) (R)
Gyro Stabilizer (R)
Heavy Armor (Full) (R)
Heavy Armor (Partial) (R)
Hellblast (R)
Maglock Key (R*)
Bounty Hunter (C)
Corporate Secretary (C)
Elven Hitman (C)
Fringe Surgeon (U)
Ganger Leader (U)
Mr. Black (U)
The Fat Man (R)
Yoshimo Chang (R)
Club Vortex (U)
Decker Coffeehouse (U)
Hermetic Library (U)
Ares Macrotechnology (R)
Aztechnology (R)
Saeder-Krupp (R)
Shadowland (R)
Sniper Roost (R)
The Festering Tusk (R)
The Hideaway (R)
Fuchi Industries (R*)
Assassination (C)
Harlequin's Game (C)
Haunted Highrise (C)
Milk Run (C)
Mob War! (C)
Operation Cottonmouth (C)
Protect and Defend (C)
Robo-plant Revolt (C)
Shadowplay (C)
Site of Power (C)
Steal Wiz Softs (C)
Sucker Run (C)
Tiki Head Enigma (C)
Wetwork (C)
Cleanse the Hive (R)
Dragon Hunt (R)
Dunklezahn's Black Book (R)
Impossible Mission (R)
Kamikaze Run (R)
Room 5b78 (R)
Security Camera (C)
Security Drone (C)
Street Scum (C)
Voiceprint I.D. (C)
Halloweener Hell (U)
Hunting Gargoyles (U)
Integrated Control Center (U)
Knight Errant Guards (U)
Anti-Astral Barrier (R)
Barney Phyffe (R)
Custom System (R)
Elite Security Mage (R)
Highway Showdown (R)
Incubus (R)
Killer Drone (R)
Motion Detectors (R)
Runners on Retainer (R)
Security Decker (R)
Security Rigger (R)
Steppin' Wulf Ambush (R)
The Big Chase (R)
Time-Delayed Bomb (R)
Deja Vu (C)
Green Apple Quicksteps (C)
Loaded Dice (C)
Luck O' The Irish (C)
Wild Goose Chase (U)
All or Nothing (R)
Blindsided (R)
Brain Freeze (R)
Tactics: Converge (R)
Cowards (R)
Distraction (R)
False Mentor (R)
Just a Rumor (R)
Lofwyr's Schemes (R)
Major Drain (R)
Sudden Goblinization (R)
Suicide Run (R)
Abducted! (R)
Ambidextrous (R)
Cyber-psychosis (R)
Knock-Knock (R)
Matrix Crash (R)
Red Alert (R)
Rush Job (R)
Nerps! (R*)
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RARES
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None right now
UNCOMMONS
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Static x2
Stiletto x2
The Mole x2
The Preacher x2
Uncle Joe
Beretta
The Ork Underground
Amazonian Hunt x2
Cake Walk x2
Crossfire x2
Desert Hit x2
Eco-War! x2
Fugitive Run
Fusion Run x2
Operation Up and Over x2
Ragnarock x2
Urban Brawl x2
Manticore x2
Poison Gas Trap x2
Razor Head Turf x2
Sabotaged Controls x2
Security Consultant x2
Sim-sensation
Swarm of Drones
Toxic Spirit
Bad Reputation x2
Blazing Guns x2
Ricochet x2
Change of Plans x2
No Way Out x2
Reinforcements x2
Rough Night x2
Tactics: Scatter x2
Whoops! x2
Block Party
Bugged Deck
Cover Up
Drive By
Rampaging Mutant
COMMONS
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Do you really want to know? Probably at least 4 of each card, if the
card's not on my wants list.
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> I now have Fastjack, a Fairlight and a Fuchi 6 but they're for my
> complete set and in safely tucked in a binder. Dodger is one of the
> rares I'm trading WindDancer for.
Yup. Nothing gets palyed with until I have a duplicated. :)
Well, that's my plan... I don't know how long I'll be able to stick to
it though.
A couple of others rounds here have bought cards too, so at least I'll
have someone to play with. :)
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Runners - Commons
Ajax - 10
Cannonball - 8
Dante - 7
D-day - 11
Glitz -13
Gore Tusk - 7
Grandfather Bones - 1
Hatchetman - 9
Hollywood -10
Jack Hammer -10
Jackyl -13
Kromagnus - 11
Nightshade - 12
Orion -10
Redline - 11
Roadrash - 9
Shade - 8
Shasta - 10
Runners - Uncommons
Cherry Bomb - 2
Domino - 1
Hawkwind - 2
Knuckles - 1
Kraker Jack - 4
Macabre - 1
Razorback - 3
Reaper - 2
Scarecrow - 1
Skidz - 2
Stiletto - 2
The Mole - 1
Tinkerbell - 2
Viper - 1
Wishbone - 3
Runners - Rares
Jack Skater - 1
Marek - 1
Ravage - 2
Adam Bomb - 1 - Promo
Gear - Commons
Ally Spirit - 8
Ares Predator - 8
Armored Vest -10
Astral Sense - 7
Black Hammer -10
Bolt of Power - 12
Browse - 12
Ceska vz/120 - 11
Chipjack 1 - 12
Crawler Patrol Drone - 10
Cyberarm - 8
Detect Enemy - 7
Elemental - 8
Evaluate - 8
Explosive Rounds - 9
Hand Razors - 13
Hog - 11
Hunter Drone - 11
Invisibility - 11
Katana - 11
Roto-drone - 12
Silencer - 11
Skillsoft: Firearms - 12
Skillsoft: Melee - 11
Sony CTY-360 - 8
Stim Patch - 7
Streetline Special - 6
Uzi III - 8
Gear - Uncommons
Armor Spell - 1
Armor Skin - 2
Automated Patrol Vehicle - 1
Beretta - 2
Bulldog Van - 3
Chipjack 2 - 2
City Spirit - 2
Defiance Shotgun - 2
Dermal Plating - 2
Doc Wagon (Gold) - 2
Extended Clip - 1
Fireball - 1
Flechette Rounds - 1
FN Mag-5 - 1
FNHAR - 1
Foretelling - 2
Fuchi Cyber-6 - 3
Harley Scorpion - 4
Heal - 3
HK227 - 4
Ingram Valiant - 2
Laser Scope - 1
Lined Coat - 1
Muscle Replacement - 1
Nature Spirit - 2
Ranger X - 1
Ruger Super Warhawk - 1
Skillsoft: Gunnery - 2
Skillsoft: Social - 3
Skillsoft: Technical - 3
Sleaze - 2
Sleep - 3
Microskimmer - 1
Steamroller - 1
Contacts - Uncommons
Mr. Black - 1
Shopping Cart Lady - 1
Talismonger - 1
Troll Bouncer - 1
Contacts - Rares
Squatter - 1
The Fat Man - 1
Yoshimo Chang - 1
Locations - Uncommons
Chop Shop - 1
Club Vortex - 1
Decker Coffeehouse - 1
Hermetic Library - 1
Objectives - Commons
Robo-plant Revolt - 1
Shadowplay - 1
Objectives - Uncommons
Desert Hit - 1
Eco-war! - 1
Fugitive Run - 2
Fusion Run - 1
Operation Up and Over - 1
Ragnarock - 1
Urban Brawl - 1
Challenges - Commons
Ambushed En Route - 9
Basilisk - 9
Booby Trap - 6
Corpselight - 12
Electrified Fence - 11
Feeding Ghouls - 8
Gut Check - 10
Hellish Traffic - 10
Hit and Run - 11
Lone Star Patrol - 10
Maglocks - 11
Mine Field - 10
Nets - 8
Retinal Scanner - 9
Street Scum - 1
Challenges - Uncommons
Ambush - 1
Ancients' Turf - 2
Chomps-2000 Guard Dog - 1
Elite Security Guards - 2
Eyekiller - 1
Free Spirit - 4
Fusion Gate - 1
Halloweener Hell - 2
Hunting Gargoyles - 2
Mafia Goons - 1
Mage Strike Force - 1
Poison Gas Trap - 1
Razorhead Turf - 1
Sabotaged Controls - 1
Security Consultant - 1
Sim-sensation - 2
The Funhouse - 2
Astral Sentry - 2
Challenge - Rares
Flock of Geese - 1
Guardian Fire Elemental - 1
Highway Showdown - 1
Killer Drone - 1
Specials (Stingers) - Commons
Deja' Vu - 1
Green Apple Quicksteps - 1
Moonlighting - 7
Specials (Stingers) - Uncommons
Bad Reputation - 1
Blazing Guns - 1
Ricochet - 1
No Way Out - 2
Reinforcements - 2
Rough Night - 2
Tactics: Scatter - 2
Whoops! - 1
Specials - Commons
Bad Lunch - 13
Specials - Uncommons
Bar Fight - 1
Block Party - 1
Bugged Deck - 2
Infected Chrome - 1
Rampaging Mutant - 1
Riots - 2
Wanted - 1
Specials - Rares
Abducted! - 1
Matrix Crash - 1
Rush Job - 1
Nerps! - 3 - Promo
Man o man, the FASA list saved me so much work... ;)
(Last updated, Aug 27, 1997, when I really should have been packing. ;)
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Runners - Commons
Syn
Runners - Rares
Archie McDeven
Bam Bam
Clutch
Da' Profezzur
Dirk Montgomery
Dodger
Dr. Apocalypse
Drake
Fastjack
Ghost Who Walks
Highbrow
Iron Mike
Kham
Ripper
Sally Tsung
Scatter
Scorpio
Skag
Wheeler
Hatchetman 2057 - Promo
Flatline - Promo
Foxy Roxy - Promo
Gear - Commons
Vindicator Minigun
Gear - Uncommons
Walther Palm Pistol
Gear - Rare
Armor-Piercing Ammo
Bullet Barrier
Camo
Chipjack 3
Cortex Bomb
Crash
Defiance Taser
Doberman Patrol Vehicle
Doc Wagon (Platinum)
Fairlight Excalibur
Greater Elemental
Gyro Stabilizer
Heavy Armor (Full)
Heavy Armor (Partial)
Monofilament Whip
Panther Assault Cannon
PRC-44b Yellowjacket
Ranger Arms
Skillsoft: Demolitions
Skillsoft: Piloting
Skillsoft: Stealth
Smartgun Link
Wired Reflexes
Maglock Key - Promo
Contacts - Uncommons
Fringe Surgeon
Ganger Leader
Locations - Commons
The Iron Lung
The Warehouse
Tir Tairngire
Locations - Rares
Renraku
The Festering Tusk
The Z-Zone
Fuchi Industries - Promo
Objectives - Commons
Assassination
Cermak Blast
Courier Run
Critter Hunt
Extraction
Fort Knocks
Gang War
Harlequin's Game
Haunted Highrise
Wetwork
Objectives - Rares
Cleanse the Hive
Dragon Hunt
Dunkelzahn's Black Book
Impossible Mission
Challenges - Commons
Security Guards
Challenges - Uncommons
Integrated Control Center
Swarm of Drones
Challenge - Rares
Anti-Astral Barrier
Barney Phyffe
Custom System
Elite Security Mage
Guardian Dracoform
Guardian Earth Elemental
Hellhound
Motion Detectors
The Big Chase
Time-Delayed Bomb
Specials (Stingers) - Rares
Blindsided
Brain Freeze
Tactics: Converge
Cowards
Distraction
False Mentor
Lofwyr's Schemes
Sudden Goblinization
Suicide Run
Specials - Uncommons
Cover Up
Drive-by
Even Steven
Specials - Rares
Cyber-psychosis
Knock-Knock
(Last updated, Aug 27, 1997, when I really should have been packing. ;)
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Okay, what do we do about swapping cards pof different value? Do we just
use the ratio from the boosters: ie. one rare = 4 uncommons = 10
commons?
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---Lady Jestyr wrote:
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> Okay, what do we do about swapping cards pof different value? Do we
just
> use the ratio from the boosters: ie. one rare = 4 uncommons = 10
> commons?
I've been going with 1 rare = 2 uncommon = 3 commons.
'Course I haven't been trading alot of commons. I believe others had
said 6 commons to a rare. So maybe 1 rare = 3 uncommon = 6 commons
might be a better formula.
Anyone with more experience on this?
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>Anyone with more experience on this?
It's been my experience that it's almost always better to wait for a price
guide in Scrye or Inquest, or what have you.
That way you have a fairly impartial guide to base value on.
However, If there's a card I particularly like, or enjoy then I trade for it
on it's personal merits, rather than any pricing/value scheme.
Steven A. Tinner
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> 'Course I haven't been trading alot of commons. I believe others had
> said 6 commons to a rare. So maybe 1 rare = 3 uncommon = 6 commons
> might be a better formula.
That would be fine with me...
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> It's been my experience that it's almost always better to wait for a price
> guide in Scrye or Inquest, or what have you.
> That way you have a fairly impartial guide to base value on.
Ack. that means a) we have to wait and I wanna trade NOW DAMMIT! :) and
b) we all have to have handy copies of scrye or inquest and I personally
would rather spend that money on more cards and c) it adds a whole new
level of mathematical complexity to the trade process.
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I can come up with these below. The number I show many I have avail. in
case you wanted to make a few complete decks. Let me know what your
interested in.
WD
>Watcher Spirit (C) (2)
>Corporate Secretary (C) (1)
>Elven Hitman (C) (2)
>
>Harlequin's Game (C) (1)
>Haunted Highrise (C) (1)
>Street Scum (C) (2)
>Voiceprint I.D. (C) (3)
>
>Deja Vu (C) (3)
>Green Apple Quicksteps (C)(2)
>Loaded Dice (C)(3)
>Luck O' The Irish (C)(3)
>False Mentor (R)(1)
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---Wind Dancer wrote:
>
> I can come up with these below. The number I show many I have
avail. in
> case you wanted to make a few complete decks. Let me know what your
> interested in.
It's probably going to be helpful to put the name/originator of a
given Needs or Wants list in the subject line or at a minimum at the
top of a quote like at the top of this message. (i.e. -- Wind Dancer
wrote:)
We now have four of five such lists floating around and there's really
nothing to show who's being repsonded to here except I remember this
subject line being Lady J.'s.
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From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
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> We now have four of five such lists floating around and there's really
> nothing to show who's being repsonded to here except I remember this
> subject line being Lady J.'s.
And it took *me* qute a while to remember it was mine too :)
Lady Jestyr
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Lady Jester,
I was just knowticing that you have had a pretty even spread....
But What Is confusing me, well, is I bought all my cards from the same box
<I checked>, and have two starter packs, and yet. I ended up with 4's and
3's in my uncommens... and even a double in my Rare <Traded to Loki>.
Has anyone else had this problem....?
WD
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Anyone else been keeping track of the numbers of
common/uncommon/rare cards in the starters and boosters?
The numbers I have found are:
Starter Set: 48 Common, 18 Uncommon, 3 Rare
Booster Set: 10 Common, 4 Uncommon, 1 Rare
I know some people have gotten different numbers.....
Tony
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Anyone got any good deck designs? I don't mean so much for which runners
you use, but more for the challenges/objectives/specials etc...
(Also, anyone who wants to submit deck designs to go up on my SRTCG
webpage will be happily rewarded with many pats on the head and
antipodean adoration) :)
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When I was first looking at starting this list, a few of you extended
an offer to help in whatever way you could Well, here I am with a call
to arms.
We're seeing the number of list members approach a decent level
(double digits, anyways). I've also posted an anouncement about the
list on a few RPG and TCG newsgroups, so we may see a few new faces
show up from that.
Anyways, I'm putting together a page at my site for the SRTCG and
namely the mailing list. This will also be the home for our FAQ,
except that there is no FAQ in existence yet.
A couple of times now I've sat down to start on a fledgling FAQ of one
sort or another but nothing is coming of it. This is mainly due to one
thing...TIME...I don't have enough of it.
I'm able to spend alot of time online and accessing email because I
have direct T1 access during the 8-hour shift I'm at work. This is
also where I've been trying to get the FAQ started, but it's hard to
keep a constant line of thought going in between tech support calls
(you may have also noticed some of this is missed spelling and grammar
errors in my posts. :o)
Outside of work I'm lucky to grab a half hour or more at my personal
computer. A wife, a baby and a regular S/R game suck up most of what's
left of my time.
Enough rambling, what I want to ask is if someone(s) would like to
help put together the basics of our FAQ. I've been trying to resist
the urge to just cut and paste, or otherwise canabalize, the ShadowRN
FAQ. Maybe we can kick around the basics of what should go into ours,
then if some kind soul could mold and shape that into a basic
structure I could put the finishing touches to it when I get it posted.
I could still get around to it myself, but it may take a while. :o)
Thanx guys!
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---Lady Jestyr wrote:
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> Anyone got any good deck designs? I don't mean so much for which
runners
> you use, but more for the challenges/objectives/specials etc...
>
> (Also, anyone who wants to submit deck designs to go up on my SRTCG
> webpage will be happily rewarded with many pats on the head and
> antipodean adoration) :)
I personally like themed objectives and challenges. For example:
* Robo-plant revolt is great when you stack up on electrical
challenges. I love watching someone have to deal with the same sentry
gun three times over. Really liquidates a runner team. Also, that
Maglock is a btich to get past already, just wait to you roll that 5+
and have to face the bugger again.
* Fort Knox is great if you stack up on personnel challenges. That
+0/+3 is a nice jump on your pumpable personnel, especially the Mage
Strike Force with pumpable armor. :o)
* There's a couple of objectives that give a +2/+2 to awakened
challenges or state awakened challenges cannot be sleazed. Now those
ghouls, manticores or hunting gargoyles are even nastier to watch come
up.
Trick is just knowing your objectives and planning your challenges so
you'll see a number come out to take advantage of the bonuses.
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Loki wrote:
> Enough rambling, what I want to ask is if someone(s) would like to
> help put together the basics of our FAQ. I've been trying to resist
> the urge to just cut and paste, or otherwise canabalize, the ShadowRN
> FAQ. Maybe we can kick around the basics of what should go into ours,
> then if some kind soul could mold and shape that into a basic
> structure I could put the finishing touches to it when I get it
> posted.
I would be willing to help out here. I have some time to spare and
would be willing to compile whatever we kick around here.
Tony
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From: The Kumquat <kumquat@*****.COM>
Subject: Trading, Trading....
It does appear that though I have precious few cards, I happen to have
one which most people happen to need. What I need is either Prime
Runners or a few good Uncommon mages, as I have many spells, but not a
single Mage runner.
When I buy more of this dangerous and Deadly addictive subscance, I will
have more on the "trading table" so to speak., but for now it is just a
single card.
Knock-Knock. (Special)
I also might be persuaded to trade my Runners on Retainer, All or
Nothing, and Room 5B78. (though, I confess, I really like the last one)
As I'm a player, *not* a collector, I don't have a need list, but rares
or cool uncommons could get me to trade rares, and I'll post *all* my
Uncommons when sending mail is easier.
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---Tony Glinka wrote:
>
> Loki wrote:
>
> > Maybe we can kick around the basics of what should go into ours,
> > then if some kind soul could mold and shape that into a basic
> > structure I could put the finishing touches to it when I get it
> > posted.
>
> I would be willing to help out here. I have some time to spare
and
> would be willing to compile whatever we kick around here.
Cool!
I've deputized Lady Jestyr as Asst. Fearless Leader of this list.
She's said that she'd help head up the FAQ project, so if you could
work in conjunction with her that'd be snazzy. :o)
Comments, suggestions and so forth on what you guys feel needs to be
in the FAQ? I know most of us are mailing list veterans.
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I just went through your list and pulled out everything I didn't have.
Now. I must really go and pack! Tell everyone to stop distracting me!
*grin*
I'm such an expert at procrastiation!
Let me know what you think, and I must go stop tryin to find other
things to do. See you after I get my clothes sorted through. (yikes! Can
I hire a team for that?!?)
Loki wrote:
> RUNNERS
Common
> Syn (4)
Rare
> Dirk Montgomery (1)
> GEAR
Common
> Vindicator Minigun (4)
Uncommon
> Walther Palm Pistol (2)
Rare
> Armor-Piercing Ammo (1)
> CONTACTS
Uncommon
> Fringe Surgeon (1)
> Gang Leader (3)
> LOCATIONS
Commons
> The Iron Lung (4)
> The Warehouse (4)
> Tir Tairngire (3)
> OBJECTIVES
Common
> Extraction (1)
> Fort Knocks (1)
> Gang War (1)
> Harlequin's Game (3)
> Haunted High Rise (3)
Rare
> Dunklezahn's Black Book (1)
> CHALLENGES
Common
> Security Guards (4)
Uncommon
> Integrated Control Center (2)
> Swarm of Drones (2)
Rare
> Motion Detectors (1)
> SPECIALS
Uncommon
> Cover Up (2)
> Drive-By (1)
> Even Steven (2)
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Ask me again after I finish moving! <grin>
Of course, if you were to help me move... I'd have to help for certain.
(seriously, tho, I'll help with it as soon as I finish moving.)
(If I ever finish moving... ARGH!)
;)
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Loki wrote:
> Comments, suggestions and so forth on what you guys feel needs to be
> in the FAQ? I know most of us are mailing list veterans.
Because this just came earlier tonight (this morning ?), I think
that anytime anyone posts a have/want list they must include their name
in the subject line. Failure to do so should result in a good thwapping
at least.
I am going to peruse all of the other list FAQ's I have to make sure
we hit everything. If we're going to do it, let's do it right. :)
Tony
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---Tony Glinka wrote:
>
> Because this just came earlier tonight (this morning ?), I think
> that anytime anyone posts a have/want list they must include their
name
> in the subject line. Failure to do so should result in a good
thwapping
> at least.
Good point. That should definitely go in the FAQ.
As for thwappings, I haven't seen Spike on this list that I know of.
We may need to appoint our own list.member.grumpy. :o)
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Me! me! me!
I'm an excellent grump, when I keep up with things!
<Grin>
And my first duty is to yell at Loki for replying to damned near
everything!!
j/k
Anyone seen my pillow? I'm in dire need of sleep. I'm punchy. :/ I feel
like how Lady J always seems...
* Dvixen runs and looks for a new, uncharted set of stairs. (Hold on, I
have stairs at my new place! wOO!!)
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On 28 Aug 97 at 15:08, Lady Jestyr wrote:
> A couple of others rounds here have bought cards too, so at least I'll
> have someone to play with. :)
Boohoo...I won't... I can't even get cards...Boohoohoo....
Man, I gotta move...
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On 28 Aug 97 at 15:13, Lady Jestyr wrote:
> Okay, what do we do about swapping cards pof different value? Do we just
> use the ratio from the boosters: ie. one rare = 4 uncommons = 10
> commons?
I don't think that is necessary, is it? In any trade, just come to
something that both parties agree to. If there is a rare card that I
want real bad, I might be willing to give 5 or 6 uncommons for it,
for example. Depends on the situation, IMHO.
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On 28 Aug 97 at 1:56, Loki wrote:
> As for thwappings, I haven't seen Spike on this list that I know of.
> We may need to appoint our own list.member.grumpy. :o)
Well, I'm pretty grumpy right now watching you all have fun with your
cards...
<sulk>
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OK
1. Pay 3 Nuyen
2. Turn Archie McDeven
3. Turn any unturned runner. The idea here is to stop your opponent fr=
om using
a runner.
4. I don't have the card so I don't know if it is till the end of the tur=
n or
permanently. But I would assume end of turn.
Hope this helps.
Also, if any one has the spoiler lists for SRTCG could you please send it t=
o
me. I have tried downloading it from interware but I just can't seem to =
get it.
Regards
Neil
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Subject: Detectives
Ok. How does one use the Archie McDeven Card. It is a detective card =
and
at the bottom it says that for 3 nuyen, turn him to turn a unturned runner.
Ok, please explain. I am quite confused on how to use him..
THanks
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On 27 Aug 97 at 21:15, Loki wrote:
> Null persp, also get with Lady J. she seemed to track down someone to
> mail order from and it sounded like a good deal.
Lady J, what company was that? Do you have a URL, or phone number?
You can send it to me private, but some others on the list may be
interested as well.
> Also, I haven't checked, but is the SRTCG listed on FASA's order form?
> I've ordered a few books directly from them in the past and the turn
> around time was really good.
Not on the one I have.
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> Lady J, what company was that? Do you have a URL, or phone number?
> You can send it to me private, but some others on the list may be
> interested as well.
Check this place out
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Lady Jestyr once dared to write,
>Okay, what do we do about swapping cards pof different value? Do we just
>use the ratio from the boosters: ie. one rare = 4 uncommons = 10
>commons?
We get ugly. Welcome to the cutthroat underside of the CCG hobby.
Hopefully since the foundation for this list is from ShadowRN we'll be a
lot more amiable about it.
I'm only buying my starters and packs in installments so it'll be
awhile before I jump into to wheeling and dealing for cards. At this time
I still have an idealistic hope of getting a full set (although promo
cards will probably be beyond me since I didn't have the time or cash for
GenCon. B>[#
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Loki once dared to write,
>I've been going with 1 rare = 2 uncommon = 3 commons.
>
>'Course I haven't been trading alot of commons. I believe others had
>said 6 commons to a rare. So maybe 1 rare = 3 uncommon = 6 commons
>might be a better formula.
>
>Anyone with more experience on this?
Yeah, commons eventually are just given away since packs will be
bought for rares with some nice uncommons being considered a bonus.
Limited edition commons will have a slight value if the series sells out
fast. Not much though.
- MC23, whose Moxes paid is rent one month -
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Steven A. Tinner once dared to write,
>It's been my experience that it's almost always better to wait for a price
>guide in Scrye or Inquest, or what have you.
>That way you have a fairly impartial guide to base value on.
Impartial? Anyway, you start to get a better of what cards are good
to play with that way since you can find out which cards are in higher
demand.
>However, If there's a card I particularly like, or enjoy then I trade for it
>on it's personal merits, rather than any pricing/value scheme.
Supply and demand, supply and demand. And it all can shift fast.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Lady Jestyr once dared to write,
>> It's been my experience that it's almost always better to wait for a price
>> guide in Scrye or Inquest, or what have you.
>> That way you have a fairly impartial guide to base value on.
>
>Ack. that means a) we have to wait and I wanna trade NOW DAMMIT! :) and
>b) we all have to have handy copies of scrye or inquest and I personally
>would rather spend that money on more cards and c) it adds a whole new
>level of mathematical complexity to the trade process.
You haven't even got to the fine art of haggling. That part is a
hobby unto itself. That's what starts to turn some people off the CCG's.
To do one hobby well you have to be good at several things.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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At 11:09 PM 8/27/97 -0700, Tony Glinka wrote:
# Anyone else been keeping track of the numbers of
#common/uncommon/rare cards in the starters and boosters?
# The numbers I have found are:
#
#Starter Set: 48 Common, 18 Uncommon, 3 Rare
#Booster Set: 10 Common, 4 Uncommon, 1 Rare
I have 4 boosters, 3 have 10, 4, 1 and 1 is 11, 3, 1
1 starter with 48, 18 and 3
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Jaymz once dared to write,
>#Starter Set: 48 Common, 18 Uncommon, 3 Rare
>#Booster Set: 10 Common, 4 Uncommon, 1 Rare
>
>I have 4 boosters, 3 have 10, 4, 1 and 1 is 11, 3, 1
>1 starter with 48, 18 and 3
11, 3, and 1 is what I'm used to from Magic the Addiction. You'll
find that the machine that auto sort these things start out rough and get
a better mix and steady rarity numbers as they get used to packaging it.
As with mass production and machine sorting, errors will occasionally
creep up. Oh how I remember my one starter of Ice age with 12 rare cards
in it. Sometimes Life is good. B>]#
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Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal names
more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mail Order SRTCG
I'll vouch for this place. I've already done business to the tune of
one booster box already and I'm in the process of waiting for box number
2.
No, I'm not a junkie. Why do you ask? :-)
- Brett
> Lady J, what company was that? Do you have a URL, or phone number?
> You can send it to me private, but some others on the list may be
> interested as well.
Check this place out
http://www.allstartradingcards.com/
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Hi ShadowRun fans...
I was hoping that some of you gurus out there could give me yer versions
of how "Locations" should be handled, specifically "The Iron Lung".
Main question:
Do runners have to "tap" to use a location and The Iron Lung
Specifically? Cuz if they don't this is a powerhouse Location card then.
Thanks for yer help,
Tamara
[AMMO]LadyDeath
http://ammo.mgl.ca/lady
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From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Deck Designs
I've put together the first (what I though was...) obvious try which
was a big-money deck. Put in 4 Thrash, 4 Glitz (who cost 3 and 4 nuyen,
respectively) and each have Fame-1. Their only purpose is to come out
and raise your per-turn nuyen take. Then, I threw in 4 Kromagnus - 6/7
troll rocker who can be turned for 1 nuyen. Kromagnus is big enough to
go on runs (and suck up 6 points of damage) and able to turn and get
money when that's appropriate. Then, I tossed in 3 Moonlightings (quick
nuyen).
This base does a really good job of getting the nuyen flowing. Then, I picked
30 of the toughest, most obnoxious objectives (like Maglocks, Mine Field,
Booby Trap, and pumpable <because we have money with this deck!> challenges
like Lone Star patrol and Security Guards).
At this point, I'm up to 45 cards. The final 15 were:
8 street sams (2 Hatchetmen plus 6 big 6/7 <A1> guys)
4 Ajax (rigger)
3 crawler patrol drones
The sam sams are the meat of the running teams. They go it and blow stuff
up - it's that simple. And their natural armor and large bodies suck up
enough damage. The key is to get enough runners on the table to pound through
all three opponent challenges in one swoop so they can't replace the challenges
or block with their own runners.
When I first started opening boosters, I laughed at Ajax. "Common worthless
card," I thought. Then, (in an earlier version of this deck), I discovered
the serious need for recon, demolitions and technical skills/abilities to
avoid Booby Traps, see Mine Fields, and sleaze Maglocks. (All common and
very deadly or annoying Challenges.) Ajax has BOTH demolitions and technical.
Throw in the crawler patrol drones to recon (and you've got the nuyen to pay
2 Nuyen/tern to recon), and you're in Fat City. This deck plays /really/ well.
Oh, and this is all done with /commons/. (!!) Since (like everyone else) I'm
still working on collecting a set, first and foremost, I didn't want
to damage any of the rares or uncommons I need for trading right now. The only
uncommon/rare card that I'd definitely add to this deck that I can think of
offhand is False Mentor (which is pretty much a must for ANY deck).
Problems with the deck: No stealth. No magic. So, if your opponent knows
what you're playing, challenges can be chosen so that there's no
sleazing for you. However, the inability to sleaze has not been a problem
so far.
It's still early, but in 8 games, this deck hasn't been beaten and it hasn't
been close. I'm really hoping that the "quick-money" style of deck isn't
the only way to go.
Has anyone else been able to experiment yet?
- Brett
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Subject: Re: Card Ratios
>Starter Set: 48 Common, 18 Uncommon, 3 Rare
>Booster Set: 10 Common, 4 Uncommon, 1 Rare
>
> I know some people have gotten different numbers.....
My values through 5 starters and a box-and-a-half of boosters has
been /exactly/ the above without any deviations.
- Brett
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From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
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At 12:00 PM 8/28/97 -0400, Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote these timeless
words:
>Hi ShadowRun fans...
>
Just as a note, you don;t capitalise the R in Shadowrun... We found out
it's the #3 (?) Pet Peeve of Mike Mulvhill, head of teh Shadowrun Line at
FASA :]
<grin>
>I was hoping that some of you gurus out there could give me yer versions
>of how "Locations" should be handled, specifically "The Iron
Lung".
>
> Main question:
>
>Do runners have to "tap" to use a location and The Iron Lung
>Specifically? Cuz if they don't this is a powerhouse Location card then.
>
Yes, When a runner "Visits" a Location, they must Turn. Some Locations do
not require a runner to visit, but these are like the Ork, Dwarf, and Elf
places, and the Warehouse...
Bull
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At 09:24 AM 8/28/97 +0000, Drekhead wrote these timeless words:
>> Also, I haven't checked, but is the SRTCG listed on FASA's order form?
>> I've ordered a few books directly from them in the past and the turn
>> around time was really good.
>
>Not on the one I have.
>
Check the updated order form on their web page... i know you cqan order
the cards through them, cause a friend did.,.. a nd they get the stuff to
you within a week...;]
Bull
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:04:43 -0400
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From: Edwin Eng <eje@******.ORG>
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Please reply to me, not to the list.
This is a sale of Shadowrun cards.
All cards are in Near Mint to Mint condition. Please see
additional information at the end of this post. Thank you !
[RARE]
Card Type Available Price/Unit
------------------------------------------------------
Anti-Astral Barrier Challenge 2 $3.00
Barney Phyffe Challenge 2 $3.00
Custom System Challenge 1 $4.00
Elite Security Mage Challenge 2 $3.00
Flock of Geese Challenge 3 $3.00
Guardian Dracoform Challenge 3 $3.00
Guardian Earth ElemenChallenge 2 $3.00
Guardian Fire ElementChallenge 4 $3.00
Heavy Sentry Gun Challenge 4 $3.00
Hellhound Challenge 4 $3.00
Highway Showdown Challenge 3 $3.00
Incubus Challenge 4 $3.00
Killer Drone Challenge 5 $2.00
Motion Detectors Challenge 4 $3.00
Runners on Retainer Challenge 4 $3.00
Security Decker Challenge 4 $3.00
Security Rigger Challenge 2 $3.00
Time-Delayed Bomb Challenge 1 $4.00
Humanis Policlub GangContact 4 $3.00
Squatter Contact 4 $3.00
The Fat Man Contact 5 $2.00
Yoshimo Chang Contact 4 $3.00
Armor-Piercing Ammo Gear 1 $4.00
Bullet Barrier Gear 1 $3.00
Camo Gear 2 $3.00
Chipjack 3 Gear 2 $3.00
Cortex Bomb Gear 1 $4.00
Crash Gear 1 $4.00
Defiance Taser Gear 1 $4.00
Doberman Patrol VehicGear 1 $4.00
Doc Wagon (Platinum) Gear 1 $4.00
Fairlight Excalibur Gear 3 $3.00
Greater Elemental Gear 2 $3.00
Gyro Stabilizer Gear 2 $3.00
Heavy Armor (Full) Gear 1 $4.00
Heavy Armor (Partial)Gear 1 $4.00
Hellblast Gear 1 $4.00
Lucky Wabbit's Foot Gear 3 $3.00
Monofilament Whip Gear 2 $3.00
Panther Assault CannoGear 2 $3.00
PRC-44b Yellowjacket Gear 3 $3.00
Ranger Arms Gear 3 $3.00
Redirect Datatrail Gear 3 $3.00
Remington 750 Gear 3 $3.00
Skillsoft: Athletics Gear 3 $3.00
Skillsoft: DemolitionGear 2 $3.00
Skillsoft: Piloting Gear 2 $3.00
Skillsoft: Stealth Gear 3 $3.00
Smartgun Link Gear 3 $3.00
Sticky Fingers Gear 3 $3.00
Stun Gloves Gear 4 $3.00
Wired Reflexes Gear 4 $3.00
Ares Macrotechnology Location 4 $3.00
Aztechnology Location 4 $3.00
Renraku Location 4 $3.00
Saeder-Krupp Location 5 $3.00
Shadowland Location 5 $3.00
Sniper Roost Location 5 $3.00
The Festering Tusk Location 5 $3.00
The Hideaway Location 4 $3.00
The Z-Zone Location 4 $3.00
Cleanse the Hive Objective 4 $3.00
Dragon Hunt Objective 4 $3.00
Dunkelzahn's Black BoObjective 4 $3.00
Impossible Mission Objective 4 $3.00
Kamikaze Run Objective 4 $3.00
Room 5b78 Objective 4 $3.00
Archie McDeven Runner 2 $3.00
Bam Bam Runner 2 $3.00
Caeser Runner 2 $3.00
Clutch Runner 1 $4.00
Da' Profezzur Runner 1 $4.00
Dirk Montgomery Runner 2 $3.00
Dodger Runner 2 $3.00
Dr. Apocalypse Runner 2 $3.00
Drake Runner 1 $4.00
Fastjack Runner 3 $3.00
Ghost Who Walks Runner 3 $3.00
Grizzly Runner 3 $3.00
Gutter Rat Runner 3 $3.00
Highbrow Runner 1 $4.00
Ice Queen Runner 4 $3.00
Iron Mike Runner 4 $3.00
Jack Skater Runner 4 $3.00
Kham Runner 4 $3.00
Lord Torgo Runner 4 $3.00
Marek Runner 4 $3.00
Moon Shadow Runner 4 $3.00
Pappy Runner 5 $2.00
Ravage Runner 5 $2.00
Ripper Runner 4 $2.00
Sally Tsung Runner 4 $3.00
Scatter Runner 4 $3.00
Scorpio Runner 4 $2.00
Skag Runner 3 $3.00
Skwaaaark Runner 4 $3.00
Tempest Runner 2 $3.00
Tin Man Runner 1 $5.00
Tiny Runner 1 $5.00
Abducted! Special 1 $5.00
Ambidextrous Special 1 $5.00
Matrix Crash Special 1 $5.00
Red Alert Special 1 $5.00
Rush Job Special 1 $5.00
All or Nothing Special 4 $2.00
Blindsided Special 4 $2.00
Brain Freeze Special 4 $2.00
Cowards Special 4 $2.00
Distraction Special 1 $3.00
False Mentor Special 1 $3.00
Just a Rumor Special 1 $3.00
Lofwyr's Schemes Special 1 $3.00
Major Drain Special 1 $4.00
Suicide Run Special 2 $3.00
Tactics: Converge Special 4 $3.00
** UNCOMMONS availability at $.50 **
** COMMONS availability at $.15 **
INFO: E-mail your order to me (eje@******.org) and I will
confirm the availability of the cards (by emailing you back)
and put them on hold for you.
SHIPPING: All U.S. orders will be charged $1.00 for postage
and packaging per 20 cards. All other countries will be
charged $3.00 plus $1.00 per 20 cards.
PAYMENT: All funds are to be in U.S. dollars.
I prefer Money Orders or Cash. That way you have a receipt.
By accepting only these two forms of payment I am able to
ship immediately upon receipt of payment, no waiting around
for checks to clear.
Thanks
eje@******.org
Edwin Eng
50-36 193rd Street
Fresh Meadows, NY 11365
U.S.A.
718-357-9829
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:14:01 +0000
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On 28 Aug 97 at 14:04, Edwin Eng wrote:
>
> This is a sale of Shadowrun cards.
>
Uh oh. Loki, is this allowed on a itribe list?
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:17:25 -0700
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Drekhead wrote:
> On 28 Aug 97 at 14:04, Edwin Eng wrote:
>
> >
> > This is a sale of Shadowrun cards.
> >
>
> Uh oh. Loki, is this allowed on a itribe list?
Maybe this is something we need to discuss for the FAQ?
Tony
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:22:37 +0000
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On 28 Aug 97 at 11:17, Tony Glinka wrote:
> Drekhead wrote:
>
> > On 28 Aug 97 at 14:04, Edwin Eng wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > This is a sale of Shadowrun cards.
> > >
> >
> > Uh oh. Loki, is this allowed on a itribe list?
>
> Maybe this is something we need to discuss for the FAQ?
Yea, because it is certainly appropriate for this venue.
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:33:43 -0700
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I think we need to find out if it is itribe that has the ban on
selling stuff, or if it just imposed by the fearless leaders on ShadowRN
and Nerps when the lists were set up.
I think that if it is allowed, all inquiries to someone's "for sale
list" should be done in private mail. Personally, I don't want to be
subjected to a bidding war on the list.
These kinds of posting should, also, have the person's name in the
subject line to avoid confusion similar to the haves/wants postings.
Tony
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:50:34 -0700
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Tony Glinka wrote:
>
> Drekhead wrote:
>
> > On 28 Aug 97 at 14:04, Edwin Eng wrote:
> >
> > > This is a sale of Shadowrun cards.
> >
> > Uh oh. Loki, is this allowed on a itribe list?
>
> Maybe this is something we need to discuss for the FAQ?
In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list. Posting
something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
list.' However, I could deal with.
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:46:35 -0400
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From: "Joshua M. Kanapkey" <Wakabout@***.COM>
Subject: [SRTCG] Answers to my post on Damn. Damn. Damn.
Could someone please send me or repost the answers to my post of 08-28-97 on
the topic Re: [SRCCG] Damn. Damn. Damn. (long-Sorry.)
It would be greatly appreciated as I've only now been able to join this list,
and have probably missed too many responses as it is.
T'anks and Adieu,
Wakabout {{@***.com}}
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:03:50 -0700
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Dvixen wrote:
> In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list.
> Posting
> something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
> list.' However, I could deal with.
I would agree with this idea. I think trades are okay as long as
the nitty-gritty details are handled in private. As for selling, I
would prefer to not have it, or at most a post like Dvixen suggests.
This keeps it more of a discussion list and not a "money making
opportunity" and keeps the people who have no interest in the game, just
the money, out.
Tony
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:08:46 +0000
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On 28 Aug 97 at 11:50, Dvixen wrote:
> In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list. Posting
> something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
> list.' However, I could deal with.
Yea, that probably is the way to go after all.
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:42 -0400
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From: Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Subject: Re: [SR] "The Iron Lung" [How to Use]
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Bull wrote:
> Just as a note, you don;t capitalise the R in Shadowrun...
Duly noted.
> Yes, When a runner "Visits" a Location, they must Turn. Some Locations do
> not require a runner to visit, but these are like the Ork, Dwarf, and Elf
> places, and the Warehouse...
> Bull
Thank you for your reply...now your idea seems practical and is in sync
with "Jyhad" which is obviously a forebearer of this game. But... on
page #54 under locations it says , "...some locations *may* require you
to turn a runner in order to use that location..."
Now The Iron Lung card does *not* specifically say that you must
turn/tap a runner to use it.
Also lower down the same page <#54> , it goes on to say, "...UNless
otherwise stated, Locations and Contacts can be used any number of
times..."
Which further implies that a single runner can access the IRON LUNG
multiple times in a single turn...
Do we have a NetRep's view of this card yet?
Tamara
[AMMO]LadyDeath
http://ammo.mgl.ca/lady
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:34:19 -0400
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At 04:28 PM 8/28/97 -0400, Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote these timeless
words:
>Bull wrote:
>> Just as a note, you don;t capitalise the R in Shadowrun...
>
> Duly noted.
>
No probs... If you note the little Orky smile at the end, I was only
teasing (Are you on the Shadowrn Mailing List? I didn't recognize your
handle or addy...?). Don't take me TOO seriously, most of the time.
Nobody else does...:]
<grin>
>> Yes, When a runner "Visits" a Location, they must Turn. Some Locations
do
>> not require a runner to visit, but these are like the Ork, Dwarf, and Elf
>> places, and the Warehouse...
>> Bull
>
> Thank you for your reply...now your idea seems practical and is in
sync
>with "Jyhad" which is obviously a forebearer of this game. But... on
>page #54 under locations it says , "...some locations *may* require you
>to turn a runner in order to use that location..."
>
> Now The Iron Lung card does *not* specifically say that you must
>turn/tap a runner to use it.
>
Ok, I looked and couldn;t actually find anything in the rulebook (most
annoying, but then, what do you want out of a tiny little StarterDeck
Rulebook?).
However, I (As well as the Listowner, Loki, and Dvixen, and Caric (You here
yet Caric?)) got to Demo the game at Gen Con with some official FASA reps,
and we were told that unless otherwise stated, you need to visit a location
with a runner, and visiting will Turn (tap:)) the runner.
> Also lower down the same page <#54> , it goes on to say, "...UNless
>otherwise stated, Locations and Contacts can be used any number of
>times..."
>
> Which further implies that a single runner can access the IRON LUNG
>multiple times in a single turn...
>
No, but you can visit it with multiple runners. usually I get THUMPed by
this card, though. But i do it anyways...;]
> Do we have a NetRep's view of this card yet?
>
Loki isn;t Official (yet), but He's probably as close as we get. However,
hopefully we'll be able to talk either Mike "Skuzzy" Nielson (the card
designer) or FASAMike Mulvhill (The Shadowrun Line Developer) into joining
the list eventually.
hey Loki? you emntioned this list to FASAMike yet? If not, I'll mail him
and let him know we have this list set up. It has a much lower traffic
volume (At the moment) than Shadowrn... maybe we can get him on here, at
least...:]
Bull
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>In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list. Posting
>something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
>list.' However, I could deal with.
I'd prefer to see the haves/wants, then to see it taken private as
soon as possible. It takes up a lot of emails, not really bandwidth
since the posts are relatively small, but it's still a pain to
have to mulch through all of it.
And.. heh.. 3-4 dollars for a stinking card that's been out for a
week? Yech, I now remember why I hate card games. ;) Except
this one, of course!
-Skye
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From: "Joshua M. Kanapkey" <Wakabout@***.COM>
Subject: [SRTCG] Uncle Joe, Burned-Out Mage and Cyborgs
Quick question for ya'll:
Does the built-in Chipjack-2 which Uncle Joe has automatically lower his
Essence to a 4 or is it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?
Also, do cyborgs still have an Essence limit?
T'anks and Adieu,
Wakabout {{@***.com}}
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At 05:11 PM 8/28/97 -0400, Joshua M. Kanapkey wrote these timeless words:
>Quick question for ya'll:
>
>Does the built-in Chipjack-2 which Uncle Joe has automatically lower his
>Essence to a 4 or is it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?
>
Unless it says on the card that he has a lower essence, than no.
Othwerwise, how would someone who doesn;t have a Chipjack 2 know what the
essence loss was?
>Also, do cyborgs still have an Essence limit?
>
Yes they do. Only Hatchetman 2057 is immune to teh Essance Limit, and
that's because he's been Cybermanced...
Bull
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> >Does the built-in Chipjack-2 which Uncle Joe has automatically lower his
> >Essence to a 4 or is it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?
> >
> Unless it says on the card that he has a lower essence, than no.
> Othwerwise, how would someone who doesn;t have a Chipjack 2 know what the
> essence loss was?
The Chipjack 2 essence loss is only 2. It would make "sense" to me that
Uncle Joe suffers from essence loss, since he has cyberware. However, I
tend to agree with Bull and follow that if it doesn't say it on the card,
it ain't happenin'. That is, unless FASA comes out with an errata.
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At 11:50 8/28/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> > Uh oh. Loki, is this allowed on a itribe list?
>>
>> Maybe this is something we need to discuss for the FAQ?
>
>In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list. Posting
>something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
>list.' However, I could deal with.
I feel that's the best way too do things. I think an outright 'sale' of
cards on the list is rather pathetic, especially since the card game has
only been out a week and the market is still damn close to virginal.
Who would buy a card for cash this early, when the stores are still full of
boosters and starters, and everyone is trading? Oh yes, cash cows..
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From: Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
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Bull wrote:
> Ok, I looked and couldn;t actually find anything in the rulebook (most
> annoying, but then, what do you want out of a tiny little StarterDeck
> Rulebook?).
> However, I (As well as the Listowner, Loki, and Dvixen, and Caric (You here
> yet Caric?)) got to Demo the game at Gen Con with some official FASA reps,
> and we were told that unless otherwise stated, you need to visit a location
> with a runner, and visiting will Turn (tap:)) the runner.
Hmmmmm....I noticed the rule book was not too clear on this fact
either...But if the NetRep or soon to be NetRep has ruled that a runner
must turn to use a given location then I guess that is the way to play.
:-)
Once again thanks for trying to help me work out a problem!
Tamara
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> Anyone seen my pillow? I'm in dire need of sleep. I'm punchy. :/ I feel
> like how Lady J always seems...
Punchy? Is this a good or a bad thing? (Sheesh... American slang...)
<looks at Dvixy running for the stairs> Oi! It MUST be bad! Heyyy!
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> >In all honesty, I'd prefer to see only trades done on the list. Posting
> >something saying 'I have some cards I want to sell, please email for
> >list.' However, I could deal with.
>
> I feel that's the best way too do things. I think an outright 'sale' of
> cards on the list is rather pathetic, especially since the card game has
> only been out a week and the market is still damn close to virginal.
> Who would buy a card for cash this early, when the stores are still full
of
> boosters and starters, and everyone is trading? Oh yes, cash cows..
I, too, agree that this would be the best way to do it. Because, while the
market is still "virginal," I've already picked up 4 boxes of boosters and
am only 18 cards short of a full set. I would rather just buy the cards I'm
missing. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience buying or trading over
the net with private parties and still feel kind of uncomfortable doing so.
Interesting side note... the card list on FASA's home page lists
Extraction, Gang War, Harlequin's Game, Haunted Highrise, Milk Run, Mob
War!, Protect and Defend, Robo-plant Revolt, and Operation Cottonmouth as
Common cards. You would think after 4 boxes of boosters we'd be able to get
at least one of each of these cards. Didn't happen. So, is this a misprint
of the rarity?
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virginal.<br>> Who would buy a card for cash this early, when the =
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trading? Oh yes, cash cows..<br><br>I, too, agree that this would be the =
best way to do it. Because, while the market is still =
"virginal," I've already picked up 4 boxes of boosters and am =
only 18 cards short of a full set. I would rather just buy the cards I'm =
missing. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience buying or trading =
over the net with private parties and still feel kind of uncomfortable =
doing so.<br><br>Interesting side note... the card list on FASA's home =
page lists Extraction, Gang War, Harlequin's Game, Haunted Highrise, =
Milk Run, Mob War!, Protect and Defend, Robo-plant Revolt, and Operation =
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> > Null persp, also get with Lady J. she seemed to track down someone to
> > mail order from and it sounded like a good deal.
>
> Lady J, what company was that? Do you have a URL, or phone number?
> You can send it to me private, but some others on the list may be
> interested as well.
www.rtgames.com
They quoted me about $80 US for a box of boosters, and the airfreight to
Australia was only going to be $27 US...
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>>
>> Lady J, what company was that? Do you have a URL, or phone number?
>> You can send it to me private, but some others on the list may be
>> interested as well.
>www.rtgames.com
>
>They quoted me about $80 US for a box of boosters, and the airfreight to
>Australia was only going to be $27 US...
Ouch. Try www.allstartradingcards.com They are selling booster boxes
at $65US...
- Brett
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>Interesting side note... the card list on FASA's home page lists
>Extraction, Gang War, Harlequin's Game, Haunted Highrise, Milk Run, Mob
>War!, Protect and Defend, Robo-plant Revolt, and Operation Cottonmouth as
>Common cards. You would think after 4 boxes of boosters we'd be able to get
>at least one of each of these cards. Didn't happen. So, is this a misprint
>of the rarity?
No. It's just weird card cutting and distribution mechanics. Many people
have gotten multiple copies of these cards and others have gotten zip.
So, they're definitely common, just allocated strangely across booster
and starter boxes.
- Brett
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> on page #54 under locations it says , "...some locations *may*
require >you to turn a runner in order to use that location..."
>
> Now The Iron Lung card does *not* specifically say that you must
> turn/tap a runner to use it.
>
> Also lower down the same page <#54> , it goes on to say, "...UNless
> otherwise stated, Locations and Contacts can be used any number of
> times..."
>
> Which further implies that a single runner can access the IRON LUNG
> multiple times in a single turn...
>
> Do we have a NetRep's view of this card yet?
>
I feel that the chance of getting 3 armor peircing damage would keep
me from using this card at all unless I the game depended on me
getting some card out in play. I do not have the card Shadowland but
from what the spoiler says below.
"Matrix. Hermit Deckers may visit this location. Roll D6 for each
visiting Runner. On 4-6, place an Info token on the Runner. This token
may be used during a shadowrun when this Runner is present. To use the
Info token, roll D6; on 4+, the shadowrunning player may look at the
next Challenge before choosing whether or not to continue the run."
Form what the rules (page 54. last part under USE CARDS before PLAY
SPECIAL CARDS) say and what this card says you could abuse this card
by having your deckers visit 30 times and gain, lets say 15 info
tokens to use each. This is the card I would ask the Netrep's view on.
Maybe the spoiler missed something that is on the card, can anyone
verify for me that the above text is on the card?
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> Do ALL starters have the same handful of runners, drones,
> challenges, and gear?
No, but my friends and I have noticed some large sorting problems...
i.e., two boosters out of the same box will have almost the exact
same cards sometimes (esp. if they were right next to each other, or
in a stack). The rares tend to be different, but many time's I'll
see the exact same commons/uncommons in boosters or starters that
came from the same box.. For this reason, I'm going to hold off on
buying a full box mailorder (though the prices are nice).
Malaclypse the Younger
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> "Matrix. Hermit Deckers may visit this location. Roll D6 for each
> visiting Runner. On 4-6, place an Info token on the Runner. This token
> may be used during a shadowrun when this Runner is present. To use the
> Info token, roll D6; on 4+, the shadowrunning player may look at the
> next Challenge before choosing whether or not to continue the run."
>This is the card I would ask the Netrep's view on.
> Maybe the spoiler missed something that is on the card, can anyone
> verify for me that the above text is on the card?
That is indeed what the card says.
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> Interesting side note... the card list on FASA's home page lists
> Extraction, Gang War, Harlequin's Game, Haunted Highrise, Milk Run,
> Mob War!, Protect and Defend, Robo-plant Revolt, and Operation
> Cottonmouth as Common cards. You would think after 4 boxes of
> boosters we'd be able to get at least one of each of these cards.
> Didn't happen. So, is this a misprint of the rarity?
I think this may be an extension of the sorting problems I mentioned
earlier... between myself and a few friends we've bought about 1 box
of starters, and about a dozen boosters, and have seen each of these
cards at least once, and with the exception of Harlequin, at least
twice.
Malaclypse the Younger
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---Adam J wrote:
>
> I feel that's the best way too do things. I think an outright
'sale' of
> cards on the list is rather pathetic, especially since the card game
has
> only been out a week and the market is still damn close to virginal.
> Who would buy a card for cash this early, when the stores are still
full of
> boosters and starters, and everyone is trading? Oh yes, cash cows..
This is my feeling as well, and as Fearless Leader that's what will
stick. Let's make sure something gets in the FAQ on this. A post
saying you have cards to sell and a request to be contacted in private
email will be allowed at a minimum, but outright sales on the list
won't be tolerated.
Trading and game discussion is what we're here for.
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I guess I opened a can of worms on this.
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Loki wrote:
> ---Adam J wrote:
>
> > I feel that's the best way too do things. I think an outright
> 'sale' of
> > cards on the list is rather pathetic, especially since the card game
I disagree. Opinion noted.
> has
> > only been out a week and the market is still damn close to virginal.
> > Who would buy a card for cash this early, when the stores are still
> full of
> > boosters and starters, and everyone is trading? Oh yes, cash cows..
I agree with my friend that we didn't want to sell this early, but noting
from the newsgroup and this list, distribution was/is the one pathetic. I
just wanted to get to everyone so that everyone has the cards they needed.
My public service to the community; and for fun & profit. :)
> This is my feeling as well, and as Fearless Leader that's what will
> stick. Let's make sure something gets in the FAQ on this. A post
> saying you have cards to sell and a request to be contacted in private
> email will be allowed at a minimum, but outright sales on the list
> won't be tolerated.
>
> Trading and game discussion is what we're here for.
Some my said 'trading' doesn't belong here. But, where can one go, where
you can get the diehards. Also, I would like to point out, I still know
this list is still new, but eventually, you might think of creating a few
more lists. For example, L5R (boo/hiss) has several lists:
1) info (game mechanics & discusion)
2) trade (trade and forsale)
3) story (story)
4) game (playing L5R on the net between 2 or more people)
Edwin
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For those concerned, I have sent a private mail to Mr. Eng advising
him that open card sales is discouraged on the SRCARD mailing list,
and that this point has further been added/stated in our FAQ.
Thanx for all the input. That's what's gonna help shape the FAQ and
mold this list into what we want from it.
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---"Joshua M. Kanapkey" wrote:
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> Quick question for ya'll:
>
> Does the built-in Chipjack-2 which Uncle Joe has automatically lower
his
> Essence to a 4 or is it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?
My understanding is that runners like Uncle Joe (w/ chipjack) or
Ravage (w/ Wired Reflexes) get these for free. Nothing states on the
card that they have a reduce essence.
> Also, do cyborgs still have an Essence limit?
Yes, except for Hatchetman 2057, his card states he ignores essence
cost and limb limitiations for cyberware.
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So far I had caught the following things for the FAQ:
The purpose of the list is for trading and game discussion.
If posting a have/want list you must include your name in the subject.
(This will avoid major confusion for all involved.)
Outright sales of cards will not be tolerated. A person can post that
they have cards to sell and to be contacted in private email.
Anything else so far? Did I get these three correctly?
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---Justin Marcinkus wrote:
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> The Chipjack 2 essence loss is only 2. It would make "sense" to me
that
> Uncle Joe suffers from essence loss, since he has cyberware.
However, I
> tend to agree with Bull and follow that if it doesn't say it on the
card,
> it ain't happenin'. That is, unless FASA comes out with an errata.
>
<HR>
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bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2
color="#000000" face="Arial"><br><br>> >Does the
built-in Chipjack-2
which Uncle Joe has automatically lower his<br>> >Essence to a 4 or is
it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?<br>> ><br>> Unless
it
says on the card that he has a lower essence, than no.<br>>
Othwerwise, how would someone who doesn;t have a Chipjack 2 know what
the<br>> essence loss was?<br><br>The Chipjack 2 essence loss is only
2. It would make "sense" to me that Uncle Joe suffers from essence
loss, since he has cyberware. However, I tend to agree with Bull and
follow that if it doesn't say it on the card, it ain't happenin'. That
is, unless FASA comes out with an errata.</p>
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Justin, I'm getting your messages with an HTML attachment that
duplicates the message. (See above.)
I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but I wanted to make
you aware of it. Can you check your mailing program for any strange
settings?
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---Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote:
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> Do runners have to "tap" to use a location and The Iron Lung
> Specifically? Cuz if they don't this is a powerhouse Location card
then.
Yes, runners designated to visit a location are turned during the
Legwork phase to do so. This leaves them inelligible for other
actions, especially Shadowruns.
As an interesting side note, The IRon Lung is a bar from the games
Skuzzy's group plays. That's why Macabre, a character from one of his
player's, gets a bonus when visiting the Iron Lung.
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---Tony Glinka wrote:
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> So far I had caught the following things for the FAQ:
>
> The purpose of the list is for trading and game discussion.
>
> If posting a have/want list you must include your name in the
subject.
> (This will avoid major confusion for all involved.)
>
> Outright sales of cards will not be tolerated. A person can post
that
> they have cards to sell and to be contacted in private email.
Dvixen has also been working on the basics of a FAQ, you can see what
she has together at:
http://coastnet.com/~dvixen/srtcg/faq1.html
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---Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote:
>
> Now The Iron Lung card does *not* specifically say that you
must
> turn/tap a runner to use it.
The key is locations that a runner "visits." If a runner visits a
location, he is turned to do so. Other locations like Tir Tairngire or
Caves of Halferville are not visited and thus no runner is designated
or turned to use it.
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From: Iron Foot <ironfoot@******.ORG>
Subject: Looking to Trade
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I'm looking to trade for the Common Objectives. I have a mess of
Commons and Uncommons to trade.
Thanks.
Elliott
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Hi all,
This is a question that has perplexed me. The rules say that you can onl=
y put
cyber on a runner that does not cost more than 6 essence points. However=
there
is nothing on the cards eg Uncle Joe to say what the essence level of the
runner is. Is this intentional or an oversight? Does anybody know?
Regards
Neil
PC:Wakabout @ AOL.COM
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Subject: [SRTCG] Uncle Joe, Burned-Out Mage and Cyborgs
Quick question for ya'll:
Does the built-in Chipjack-2 which Uncle Joe has automatically lower his
Essence to a 4 or is it completely free of charge(nuyen and essence)?
Also, do cyborgs still have an Essence limit?
T'anks and Adieu,
Wakabout {{@***.com}}
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> The key is locations that a runner "visits." If a runner visits a
> location, he is turned to do so. Other locations like Tir Tairngire or
> Caves of Halferville are not visited and thus no runner is designated
> or turned to use it.
I assume then that The Warehouse does not require a runner to be turned?
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Subject: Oh crap
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Damn. I managed to delete the Cards for Trade list that I posted to the
list... anyone kept a copy? Please? *sigh*
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---Bull wrote:
>
> > Do we have a NetRep's view of this card yet?
> >
> Loki isn;t Official (yet), but He's probably as close as we get.
<blush> I'm trying for a Gurth like status of "Unofficial SRTCG Guru."
Actually, most of what I throw out is from experience and parlay with
FASAMike or Skuzzy. Antyhing I'm not comfortable answering or just
plain don't know, I'll bounce off Skuzzy in an upcoming email. I'll be
sure to post all formal rulings and replies as I get them.
> hey Loki? you emntioned this list to FASAMike yet? If not, I'll
mail him
> and let him know we have this list set up. It has a much lower
traffic
> volume (At the moment) than Shadowrn... maybe we can get him on
here, at
> least...:]
No, but I did send a formal invite to Skuzzy. I'll shoot one over to
Mike either tonite or tomorrow, or if you beat me to it just let me
know.
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Thanks, Drekhead. Mucho appreciated.
(Don't know that you needed to send them to the list, though. :)
Also, as the newly-appointed Assistant Fearless Leader of the list, I
thought I'd take it upon myself to start putting together a homepage for
the list.
Any of you who have Shadowrun or SRTCG-related pages, let me know its
address, since I'll put together a little Member Pages Directory.
Also, I've decided that I will accept SRTCG-related pages on the
Shadowrun Webring. If enough of them spring up I will devolve a new
webring to handle it; in the meantime they are welcome on the Shadowrun
Webring.
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---Neil Fathulla wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> This is a question that has perplexed me. The rules say that you
can only put
> cyber on a runner that does not cost more than 6 essence points.
However there
> is nothing on the cards eg Uncle Joe to say what the essence level
of the
> runner is. Is this intentional or an oversight? Does anybody know?
It's a carry over from the Shadowrun RPG. The basics are like this:
Everyone has an Essence of six (unless stated otherwise). Cyberware
takes away from, and in turn lowers, a runner's Essence. Generally,
once you have depleted your Essence, and gone negative...you're dead.
However, there are those that have dared to push this threshold to
it's limits, and even step over it into the negatives. This is the
area of Cybermancy from the RPG, the creation of cyberzombies. In the
SRTCG they're called Cyborgs, the special abilities og Skrwaaaaaak and
Hatchetman 2057 are the best examples.
There are varied arguments from the RPG as to the nature of Essence.
Some say Essence is a measure of how "human" you are, what's left to
seperate the man from the machine. Others say it's your soul. Still
others will simply say it's a game mechanic to counteract munchkins.
:o)
BTW has anyone noted there's a Cyberpsychosis special? That's gotta
hurt the devout that crusade against there being Cyberpsychosis in S/R.
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---Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
> Also, as the newly-appointed Assistant Fearless Leader of the list, I
> thought I'd take it upon myself to start putting together a homepage
for
> the list.
>
> Any of you who have Shadowrun or SRTCG-related pages, let me know its
> address, since I'll put together a little Member Pages Directory.
Can I assume you don't need me to send you my page info?
If I do, it's in my sig. :o)
I too, will be putting together a mini-page for the SRTCG list. Mostly
FAQ info, Trade/Need lists and a link to Lady J's site for
fancy-smancy stuff.
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---Lady Jestyr wrote:
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> I assume then that The Warehouse does not require a runner to be
turned?
Exactly. It in no way states that a runner visits the location, only
that you place and deploy gear with the card. (Basically saves you
from having to discard useful stuff.)
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---Bull wrote:
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> However, I (As well as the Listowner, Loki, and Dvixen, and Caric
(You here
> yet Caric?)) got to Demo the game at Gen Con with some official FASA
reps,
I meant to comment on this on a previous post and it' slipped by me.
(What do you expect when you do 95% of your emailing while at work?)
For those of you who know him, Caric got another job a week or so ago.
He used to be at the same call center I work at, and now having left,
he's given up the luxury of sitting here at a computer with T1 access
to the 'Net 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. :o)
He's really behind on email. When our group got together for S/R last
Saturday he hadn't checked his email in 3 days and feared logging on
as those who are also on the ShadowRN list should understand...figure
about 350 mails waiting for you. :o)
Anyways, I've been hounding him to sub to SRCARD. I've told him he's
missing some hot wheelin' and dealin', and we're only three days old.
I'll keep on him too, but he can be difficult to motivate sometimes.
;o)
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---Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote:
>
> Hmmmmm....I noticed the rule book was not too clear on this
fact
> either...But if the NetRep or soon to be NetRep has ruled that a
runner
> must turn to use a given location then I guess that is the way to
play.
> :-)
I'm certain that's the ruling. However, I've shot a question off to
FASA to see if we can get official feedback and get it in their FAQ as
well. I'll post what they send me when I get it.
> Once again thanks for trying to help me work out a problem!
That's what we're here for. :o)
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---Andrew Payne III wrote:
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> I feel that the chance of getting 3 armor peircing damage would keep
> me from using this card at all unless I the game depended on me
> getting some card out in play.
Actually, it's only 2 armor piercing damage which isn't enough to kill
most runners and the damage can be healed. Also, Macabre gets a bonus
of +1 to die rolls at the Iron Lung (great combo for getting cards in
your hand.)
> I do not have the card Shadowland but
> from what the spoiler says below.
> "Matrix. Hermit Deckers may visit this location. Roll D6 for each
> visiting Runner. On 4-6, place an Info token on the Runner. This
token
> may be used during a shadowrun when this Runner is present. To use
the
> Info token, roll D6; on 4+, the shadowrunning player may look at the
> next Challenge before choosing whether or not to continue the run."
That's exactly how the card reads.
> Form what the rules (page 54. last part under USE CARDS before PLAY
> SPECIAL CARDS) say and what this card says you could abuse this card
> by having your deckers visit 30 times and gain, lets say 15 info
> tokens to use each. This is the card I would ask the Netrep's view
on.
> Maybe the spoiler missed something that is on the card, can anyone
> verify for me that the above text is on the card?
That would take 30 legwork phases for a single decker, 15 for two
deckers, 10 for three deckers, and so on. During this time your
deckers have not been able to do anything else like recon.
Now, it also says "This token may be used during a shadowrun when this
Runner is present. " Which means the decker(s) must actually be with
your team on a Shadworun. Not a good way to keep those deckers alive
as they're now able to fall victim to Challenges and suffer damage.
They're not the heartiest lot of runners in your deck.
You're not limited to only deckers visiting Shadowland (it's jsut that
hermit deckers may also visit), but anyone visiting the location isn't
able to do anything else that turn.
So far, I haven't found the card to be a game breaker.
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Call me stupid [shut up the lot of you!] but I haven't really been able
to find the purpose of deckers... what's the best way of utilising
deckers?
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