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From: Shane Ruman <Shane_Ruman@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR] Have questions Need "Loki"!
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:14:44 -0600
---Michael Pease/Tamara Lorenz wrote:
>> 2) Card Precedence: Now this applies to a much bigger
picture but take
>> this example for reasons of simplicity. A stack of challenges has
just
>> been revealed, the top challenge is "Motion Detectors" <no other
>> challenges can be sleazed>, okay that is easy to understand and you
go
>> on to the next challenge, which turns out to be "Gut Check"<1-3 the
>> challenge is sleazed>.
>> How does one proceed in this situation? Which card takes
precedence?
> The first challenge will affect subsequent challenges, so in this case
> Gut Check cannot be sleazed. This does pose a problem as it would seem
> that with Motion Detectors in place, the player cannot sleaze past Gut
> Check to ever achieve the objective. Interesting...

I disagree on this point. I prefer to think of the mechanics this way --
"rules" on a card replace basic game rules. Thus, the motion detector
would replace the "current" rule in the game (probably the basic, book
ones) about sleazing. Then the gut check would replace the current rule
in the game (the motion detector one) with the one that basically say --
"... sleazing rules are as before but gut check can be sleazed on a 4+".
This makes sense to me and avoids the "game-wrecking" combo of gut-check
et. al. and motion detector
>> The same goes for something like this: The first challenge was not
>> sleazed so the alarm is triggered, the next challenge is "Fleshing
>> Eating Ghouls"<frag/trash a runner to sleaze the ghouls>...
>> What is the outcome? Which card takes precedence? And so
on...
>Once the alarm is triggered on a shadowrun, subsequent challenges may
>not be sleazed. This means that sacrificing a runner to the ghouls is
>not going to work for you this turn.

By my "logic" above the ghouls could still be sleazed by sacing a runner.
This makes "real-world sense" too because even though the alarm was ringing
the ghouls would stop to eat (as if in the "normal" situation they would
eat
somebody and not think they had broken in).

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