From:	Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Lord Torgo
Date:	Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:13:20 -0700

>>
>> Lord Torgo is a runner with a 9/9 Threat rating And an Armor of 2.
>> Does anyone have a card that can trash him?
>> I'm not looking for combos. Just one card or a card and a certain
>runner.

>Booby Trap can potentially trash him.

Yep. If Torgo is isolated, it's probably the best card to waste him.

>Minefield might take him out.

Not unless Torgo's previously injured. If he /is/, then there's a
bunch of cards that might take him out.

>Repeated use of Archie McDeven can keep Torgo out of commission

Well, yes. But it costs you 3 nuyen a pop to use Archie this way
and it costs your opponent 2 nuyen a pop to keep him around. A
losing battle...

>Green Apple Quicksteps can take him out of a run.

Torgo reminds of the sports cliche - "You can't stop him. You
can only hope to contain him." :-)

>Guardian Dracoform or Dragon Hunt will nail him one-on-one.

Guardian Dracoform at 12/10 (A3) can. Dragon Hunt at 10/10 (A3)
cannot. (Again, unless he's injured.)

>He ain't too good v.s. a Maglock.

See Green Apple Quicksteps. :-)

>A good runner with the right weapon (burst fire or someone like
>Stomper with a Katana can take him one-on-one).

Stomper with a katana is /just/ a point short of killing Torgo.

6/7 + (+2/+0) katana + (+2/+0) melee added from katana = 10/7

>Also Nets, Gut Check, Poison Gas Trap, Sim Simsenstation, and Retinal
>Scan all have the potential to send him out of a run.

Again, see Green Apple Quicksteps... :-)

>And the biggie: Use Ice Queen or Sticky Fingers to steal cash, or
>Hollywood to cancel a runner's fame, thus depleting your opponents nu
>yen stash. If he can't make the 2 nu yen upkeep during his Credstick
>phase, Lord Torgo goes bye-bye. ;o)

I doubt very much this is legal. These abilities are useless until the
opponent gets his/her 4+ nuyen for the turn. Then, as it is /their/
turn, they get to take whatever action they wish to first - like
paying off Torgo.

- Brett