| From: | Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Lord Torgo |
| Date: | Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:38:39 -0700 |
>
> >>
> >> Lord Torgo is a runner with a 9/9 Threat rating And an Armor of 2.
> >> Does anyone have a card that can trash him?
> >> I'm not looking for combos. Just one card or a card and a certain
> >runner.
>
> >Booby Trap can potentially trash him.
>
> Yep. If Torgo is isolated, it's probably the best card to waste him.
>
> >Minefield might take him out.
>
> Not unless Torgo's previously injured. If he /is/, then there's a
> bunch of cards that might take him out.
True, that's why I added the word "might". :o)
> >Repeated use of Archie McDeven can keep Torgo out of commission
>
> Well, yes. But it costs you 3 nuyen a pop to use Archie this way
> and it costs your opponent 2 nuyen a pop to keep him around. A
> losing battle...
It was just a listed option of one way to control him. Not for the
most part cost effective, but it should work for a few turns. Then I'm
toying with a deck that has four Glitz's and two or three Kromagnus's.
:o)
> >Green Apple Quicksteps can take him out of a run.
>
> Torgo reminds of the sports cliche - "You can't stop him. You
> can only hope to contain him." :-)
True. That's why I'm just tossing out options.
> >Guardian Dracoform or Dragon Hunt will nail him one-on-one.
>
> Guardian Dracoform at 12/10 (A3) can. Dragon Hunt at 10/10 (A3)
> cannot. (Again, unless he's injured.)
I forgot to bring my binder with my set into work with me, so I was
just going off the top of my head.
> >He ain't too good v.s. a Maglock.
>
> See Green Apple Quicksteps. :-)
<AOL>
Me too.
</AOL>
> >A good runner with the right weapon (burst fire or someone like
> >Stomper with a Katana can take him one-on-one).
>
> Stomper with a katana is /just/ a point short of killing Torgo.
>
> 6/7 + (+2/+0) katana + (+2/+0) melee added from katana = 10/7
Again, as I said I didn't have my binder here and I couldn't remember
if Stomper was an Attack Value of 6 or 7. Sure the Vanilla Stomper
couldn't do it, but notice I said someone like Stomper. Bam Bam maybe?
:o)
> >Also Nets, Gut Check, Poison Gas Trap, Sim Simsenstation, and
Retinal
> >Scan all have the potential to send him out of a run.
>
> Again, see Green Apple Quicksteps... :-)
<AOL>
Me too.
</AOL>
> >And the biggie: Use Ice Queen or Sticky Fingers to steal cash, or
> >Hollywood to cancel a runner's fame, thus depleting your opponents
nu
> >yen stash. If he can't make the 2 nu yen upkeep during his Credstick
> >phase, Lord Torgo goes bye-bye. ;o)
>
> I doubt very much this is legal. These abilities are useless until
the
> opponent gets his/her 4+ nuyen for the turn. Then, as it is /their/
> turn, they get to take whatever action they wish to first - like
> paying off Torgo.
I wasn't suggesting to use either ability during your opponents
legwork phase, I agree that would be a severe timing issue. Perhaps I
should've been more clear. I was meaning to use things like Ice Queen
or Sticky fingers to deplete surpless nu yen from previous turns, plus
using Hollywood(s) to keep Rocker(s) from adding to the Nu Yen they
get during credstick phase. This technique could have your opponent
having to decide whether it's worth it to keep using half of their
money each turn to keep Torgo out and have very little else he could
use the remaining 2 or so nu yen for, or to let the big guy go.
-== Loki ==-
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