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From: Phillip G Jaros <phillip_jaros@**.US.SWISSBANK.COM>
Subject: Re: FASA Answers on Red Widow and GAQS
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:01:40 CDT
Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU> wrote:
>
>To be blunt, I have to say that this is the WORST bunch of rulings
>I've seen in any card game in a /long/ while.

I'ld have to concure.

>>Ok this set of questions on on a timing issue. Let's say I send in
>>Lord Torgo and Nightshade on a run. The challenge that gets flipped
>>over is Yak Attack. Lord Torgo's trait of Anti Social triggers the
>>alarm. Right now the only spell on Nightshade is Astral Sense, but
>>I'll sill clean up in combat with Torgo. Realizing this my opponent
>>plays Green Apple Quicksteps (GAQS) on Torgo to send him home and more
>>than likely kill off my mage. Questions:
>
>>Q. Is it OK timing-wise for him to throw out GAQS at this time? Must a
>> stinger like GAQS come out as soon as the challenge is turned over,
>>or at any time while figuring out sleaze or combat?
>
>>A. It's okay. He played after the alarm is triggered and before
>>combat. It just can't be used in the middle of combat.
>
>Ye gods... GAQS now has been promoted to one of the most powerful
>cards in the game BY FAR. And this isn't even considering the
>/defensive/ uses of this card yet...
>
>This game already has a serious endgame problem with each player ending
>up with HORDES of runners. If you allow GAQS to be /this/ effective,
>small running groups are toast. Just sit back and kill them off with
>GAQS by sending the right runner home.

THat is how I've been running my decks since I first played the game in
July. Three of us at the Chicago Comicon were given both sets of
demo decks. We went home wrote down the contents of the decks and built
3 more specialized decks to play with. I went with the low on characters,
high on specials/challenges deck, which is how I've been playing ever since.

>>Q. If GAQS sent Torgo home, is the alarm still triggered from his Anti
>>Social trait?
>
>>A. Yes--if it's played after the alarm is triggered.
>
>Great, another advantage for GAQS. Get the most out of it. Set the
>alarm off AND send the big gun home.
>
>You know, kids. GAQS only costs TWO FRAGGIN NUYEN. Can you say "game
>play imbalance". If you can't yet, play a few more games using this
>ruling. You'll learn, trust me...
>
>There are a host of other stingers that cost more and don't screw over
>an enemy running team even HALF as bad as GAQS can using this
>interpretation.

Yep GAQS tends to be a NERPs (ie Good for just about every situation... )

>I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, though. It took FASA actual
>playtesting to realize that False Mentor, costing only 4 nuyen and
>not being unique, would unbalance and dominate a game.

Tis a very nice card, unfortunately I only have the demo deck variety....

>I don't mean to sound this nasty, but FASA needs to RETHINK THEIR
>POSITION on this in a big bad way. This ruling effectively ruins
>the game - almost as bad as the cheap, non-unique GAQS.

I have to agree with you again, GAQS should only take effect before or
after sleazing takes place but not either/or. It's a great card even
with a limitation like that.

This brings me again to the question:

What type of decks do you play? I go with characters that are cheap or
come with free stuff, so I can free up newyen for pumping up challenges
or playing specials....


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