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From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: I was slaughtered
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:59:14 -0700
---Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> GAQs' and Whoops don't help much, because he has enough muscle to
> deal with anything a singler (or even two No Way Out'd) Challenge can
> deal. (torgo IS a 9/9A2 BEFORE gear) Gut Check would just stall
> for time...assuming he didn't just breeze past it.
>
That's why you should use those challenges that target specific runner
to "weed out" some of them.

[snip]

> > I would try a challenge stack like this:
> > 1st: something to trigger an alarm
>
> GAQS, Whoops.
>
Actually I meant something like The Funhouse, Toxic Spirit and Astral
Sentry (since it sounds like he doesn't have Shaman), Eyekiller
followed by Feeding Ghouls, Minefield, Bobby Trap, Flock of Geese,
etc...


> > 2nd: something to remove some runners (back to the safehouse or out
> > of the game)
>
> GAQS.
>
Retinal Scanner, Poison Gas trap, Nets, Minefield, Bobby Trap, Hit and
Run, those that target a single runner Incubus, Killer Drone,
Manticore, etc...

> > 3rd: something pumpable to inflict a lot of damage on the remaining
> > runners
>
> Got these, but will I have the money?
>
You know these... Don't know about the money thing, I typically have
problems with this myself.

[snip]

>
> I've got some muscle(Hachetman, Reaper), but they aren't enough.
> Wanted! would require that I have someone able to defeat a 9/9A2
> (plus the massive amounts of junk he throws on him....Torgo with two
> Hand Razors is vile. Vindicator is just as bad.)
>
How about Infected Chrome (can you put 2 of these on a single runner?)
and/or Cyber-Psychosis? Of course Dr. Apocalypse with a Hellblast and
Wanted! should do the trick and give you reputation to boot. However
that's 2 rares and a 3 card combo you might not see too often.

> > > Q: The Rapier says "Outdoor". Does this mean it can ONLY be
used on
> > > Outdoor Challenges, or CAN'T be used on Indoor Challenges?
> > >
[snipped]
>
> What I meant was: If it doesn't say Outdoor
> OR Indoor, do I have the armor bonus or not?
>
Sorry, I see now. Yes, unless the card (or objective the challenge is
on) states otherwise it can be used.

[snip]
>
> But A decker would require his own gear, screwing up the mages in my
> deck.
>
> Not trying to be a downer here, I just can't think of any
> reasonable fix to this. (The Bar Fights on the Decker, yes)
>

Unfortunately there aren't too many options for directly taking out
runners (something akin to Terror or Swords to Plowshares from MTG).
The best thing to do is try challenge combos that continually pile on
the damage and then try to finish him off during your turn with Riots
and Tempest.

The other thing to try is to speed your deck up a bit. I don't know
what's in it, and I'm no master at deckbuilding myself... So I'm not
sure what pointers to give you for this one.


You know the drill :-)
Forrest
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