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From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: A Question and stuff
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:17:50 -0700
---Jeroen de Wijn <J.Wijn@*********.NL> wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> My question is about Elite Security Mage:
> Can you use the special ability of the Challenge even if they get
sleazed?
>

My first reaction would be to say once they are sleazed then they go
away so that's that. However, in the context of the previous
conversation regarding "timing" of sleazing and GAQS, that makes this
special ability useless. There's always got to be some sort of
problem I guess... :-)

This may get messy but how about this: The ability may be used, but
not in an attempt to remove a runner that would otherwise allow Elite
Security Mage to be sleazed. (For example, I have Stilleto and Sally
Tsung on a run. I encounter ESM and meet the sleaze requirements so
they are bypassed. The owner of that challenge may now choose to frag
the top card to send Sally home. I now have to decide whether or not
to continue the run with Stilleto alone.) So essentially ESM has a
GAQS built in.

That's simple enough, but now for the "messy" part. Can ESM be used
by the owner on another player running against another objective (one
that ESM isn't on)? If so I assume you have to expose it, once you do
though does it remain upright, or is it turned face down again? Also,
can ESM be used during one of your runs on your own runners? This
comes back to the question of what is a target.

Personally I feel a target should be anything of that type in play. I
very much doubt that this will work for tournaments, but for friendly
play it can make for much more interesting games :-)

Forrest
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