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From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:44:47 -0700
---Forrest wrote:
>
--- Tamara wrote:
> >
> > 6) <beating a dead horse>

<police megaphone>

Leave the horse alone! Now put down the stick and back away from the
carcass!

</police megaphone>
:o)


> > I have seen so many answers from FASA and
> > otherwise, I don't; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is
> easily
> > the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor.
> Gripes
> > aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once
the
> > challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send
back
> > retroactively the "Sleazer"?

Relax a little bit about it. We already know how you feel about GAQS
and the timing thing. I end up forwarding a number of our posts to
FASA, Skuzzy and Jim as I parlay with them over rulings and lists
issues. I'm tired of editing out bits of dripping sarcasm here and
there to save List face. Remember, they've said they'll be subbing to
the list sometime down the road, and you won't know when 'til you
actually see a response from them. It's generally not good practice to
upset or peeve one's game designers. ;o)

> NO! Once they meet the sleaze requirements it is sleazed. If GAQS
is
> used before the sleaze requirements are known then that runner isn't
> present to help in the sleaze. Maybe that's a good way to think
about
> it, SLEAZING IS AUTOMATIC. If the runners meet the sleaze
> requirements when it is exposed, the sleaze happens. It doesn't
> matter what happens to any of the runners after the card is exposed.
> It only matters what the sleaze requirements are and what skill set
is
> present when the card is first exposed. This also eliminates the
> shouting matches that some people have mentioned. What do people
> think about this?

Going by repsonses we've gotten from FASA you can use GAQS after a
challenge is revealed to get rid of a runner that is making the sleaze
requirements. I believe that's one of the primary origins for GAQS.

In the games I've played thus far, we've been playing it that way and
I fail to see the timing issues that has a few list members all pent
up.

Anyways, I've already said I forwarded Jim and Skuzzy a copy of Brett
Barksdale's post where he heatedly disagreed with their GAQS ruling.
When I get a futher response back on the timing issues I'll post it.

===
@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

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