| From: | Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: A Question and stuff |
| Date: | Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:23:05 -0700 |
>
> ---Jeroen de Wijn <J.Wijn@*********.NL> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > My question is about Elite Security Mage:
> > Can you use the special ability of the Challenge even if they get
> sleazed?
> >
>
> My first reaction would be to say once they are sleazed then they go
> away so that's that. However, in the context of the previous
> conversation regarding "timing" of sleazing and GAQS, that makes this
> special ability useless. There's always got to be some sort of
> problem I guess... :-)
>
> This may get messy but how about this: The ability may be used, but
> not in an attempt to remove a runner that would otherwise allow Elite
> Security Mage to be sleazed. (For example, I have Stilleto and Sally
> Tsung on a run. I encounter ESM and meet the sleaze requirements so
> they are bypassed. The owner of that challenge may now choose to
frag
> the top card to send Sally home. I now have to decide whether or not
> to continue the run with Stilleto alone.) So essentially ESM has a
> GAQS built in.
>
> That's simple enough, but now for the "messy" part. Can ESM be used
> by the owner on another player running against another objective (one
> that ESM isn't on)?
Elite Security Mage
Type: Challenge
Description: (Indoor/Personnel)
Notes: 3¥: +3/+3 (A+1) until end of turn. Once per shadowrun, owner of
Elite Security Mage may frag the top card of his draw pile to
immediately send target Runner to Safehouse. Sleaze: Stealth,
Sorcery-2. 5/5 (A1).
I'd say no. My understanding from the card text is that the ESM's
special may be used to affect a Runner on a shadowrun the ESM is
present on. Besides, challenges may only affect a Runner(s) while
they're revealed. Except for very special cases, a challenge is only
turned over and revealed when the runners are present to encounter it.
According to the rule book thingy (pg 60): "If the Runners cannot
defeat the challenge, the shadowrun is over. Turn the Challenge face
down in it's original position in the Challenge stack."
In other words, even though it's been encountered and the player knows
what the cards is, the Challenge does not stay there face up and
active. It is not "revealed" until the Runners come around and
encounter it again. Again, except for special cards like those that
move onto the objective, I don't believe a Challenge can affect the
game except during the time it's "revealed."
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