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From: ">>>>> Axlrose - ... <<<<<" <axlrose@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Chicago - Fasa Representative
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 17:02:30 -0400
At 05:38 AM 9/26/97 -0700, you wrote:

<snip snip credit card stuff>

>Gotta love it when that happens. But that's the store's fault; you just
>seem to be overlapping it with all the problems FASA had. Has.
>Whichever.

After how I started feeling overall, this was like the icing on the cake.
Adding how my desire (greed?) of wanting to buy the demo deck as I saw he
had a box of them and getting refused with what I thought was a lame excuse
*snicker*. I was tempted to play another game, yet the rep got up and left.


>> And I don't know about other major cities, but some of the expressways that
>> were being worked on here in Chicago were just redone less than five years
>> ago.

>Oh, Boston is exactly the same way. Idaho grows potatos, we grow
>potholes. World's largest exporter, and all that.

I see the trade routes between Boston and Chicago are running great eh?

Was hearing that the major ramp going from the Stevenson to the Dan Ryan
has been falling apart - nice little drop if that collapsed...


<snip snip the first impressions>

>I've learned this from the RPG, though: sometimes you have to create
>your own publicity. I mean, the other gamers have to get tired
>sometime, or you can start a converaton with soemone hanging on the
>sidelines -- it all depends on the quality of marketer they have. But,
>from your description.. well, I wouldn't've played the game either.

I am not positive, but isn't Legend of the Five Rings (I think that is the
name) a new card game also? There were at least 8, if not more, people
playing that game and having a blast. People going through binders of
their cards, pulling out stuff, trading and all. I brought my extra SR
cards with in hopes of trading with others, but no one was interested.


>Definitely need another NERPS! though. That and a Maglock..

I have three NERPS! now.....


<more snip snip>

>The biggest problem is relying on freelancers for all the work. (Says a
>guy who's been pushing more than one subby to FASA lately.)

>Seriously, though, it's a problem with all RPGs: If you leave everything
>in general terms (GURPs for the longest while) then there's nothing for
>the players to grasp. If you put down too much, then there's no
>freedom, and they're trapped in someone else's plotline. And if you
>don't update those plotlines, you're being stagnant, and if you *do*,
>you make everything written before obsolete.

>Honestly, I've never, not once, been satisfied with the "canon" SR
>universe. It's simply not my style, though it's the closest an RPG has
>gotten. So I don't buy most of the universe books, and avoid arguments
>about who shot Dunkelzahn.

I on the other hand enjoy the "canon" SR universe. Except it seems they
are going to extremes with it. Maxing out the archetypes you might say.
Though it is good progress for the universe overall, it feels like they are
trying to push the later years into a specific path. I can't really
pinpoint it, just a feeling. While the early game years were open-ended,
the later is "The only way a street sam can survive is via a delta clinic
and cybertechnology..."


>Nobody says, after all, that you have to buy them.

As I mentioned above, I like the whole so... addictive habit you might say.


>> And then add the mess with the collation problems, I have not been the
>> happiest of customers lately *shrug*.

>I haven't had any problems with the cards at all. I had a couple that
>were severely miscut; FASA replaced them all for the trouble of a
>stamp. I'm not sure I like the policy of going from the 'original set'
>to an updated 'unlimited' release in less than three months, but that's
>another deal altogether.

My problem was the boosters I bought had common cards repeated within
themselves, along with many, many, many times over the cards listed in the
exact order on the card list from FASA. Seeing two starters have the exact
same 20+ cards in the exact order was a blow too (my first two to start).
Getting repeats is one thing - getting the same cards over and over within
one pack is another.

I would not mind so much if the 'unlimited' release fixes cards while
retaining the same color and all that as the initial release now. Unless
they start altering cards ala Magic did with the sets and expansion packs,
making past cards null and void while the next expansion is already slated
for a three month release, then the game should be affordable. Yes, I do
not have to buy any of it, but I like the game. I want to get a set just
to have everything from Shadowrun again. But quick releases just to make a
quick buck would turn me off like it did with Magic.

Just my thoughts,
>>>>>Axlrose - ...<<<<<

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