From:	Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject:	Re: Misc. Comments and Questions
Date:	Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:39:47 -0700

---Phillip G Jaros wrote:
>
> >Also, only one type of weapon may be used per Runner in a given
> >combat. So whoever it was that was asking about a Ambidextrous Lord
> >Torgo with Katana's and Stun Gloves was making a moot point.
>
> I can't imagine that you need to use the same type of weapon.
> The line about "only one type of weapon may be used per Runner in
> a given combat" is said to prevent someone from saying they are using
> a Panther Assult Cannon, 2 Berettas, a Are Preditor and a Katana
> in this combat. Ambidextrous allows a user to use 2 pistols
> (ie 2 Berettas, A berreta and a Ceska, 2 Preditors etc...) or 2
> HTH weapons (ie 2 Katanas, a Katana and a Hand Razors etc...)
> or (if you read the card loosely) a pistol and a HTH weapon.
> If it HAS to be the exact same weapon it is a pretty bad card.
>
> You can only have 4 of one weapon in a deck and most decks have
> 60 or so cards in them so the odds of getting two of the same
> weapons and Ambidextrous (assumming you don't have multiples
> since it is a Rare) is not that good.
>
> This of course is IMHO....
>
> Could you PLEASE ask Fasa about using two types of Pistols with
> Ambedextrous as well?

Ambidextrous does bend the standard weapons rules. I was answering the
previous post between calls at work, and so hadn't thought out the big
picture. I should have stuck with type referring to class of weapon,
not specific kinds (IOW - Pistol, HTH, etc.) Considering I've used
both a Beretta and Ares Predator on Flatline at the same time, I'd
have to agree with you on different kinds of a Pistol working with
Ambidexterity.

Ambidextrous
Type: Special
Rarity: Rare
Description: 2¥. Target Runner may use two pistols or Hand-to-Hand
Weapons simultaneously. Leave this card on target Runner when played.

Considering the wording of the card, I don't know if I agree with a
Katana/Beretta combo. Seems to me that you may either use Pistols *OR*
HTH weapons. Not a combo of the two.

> >One other thing, since stun gloves are a weapon. If you use them, I
> >would expect that you don't also deal damage. You either trash the
> >target or you don't. I would expect this is taking place during a
> >weapon's normal damage dealing phase, so your target gets to deal
> >their damage before being trashed. (Kinda like the example of Chomps
> >2000 getting dropped to a 6/0 by Milk Run. He's trashed because of
his
> >Body being a zero but he'll deal his damage first.)
> >
> >Does any of that make sense?
>
> I understand what you are saying, but I still can't imagine it
> being used to often if the Challenge is allowed to deal it's
> damage. Anyone who has a decent chance of using the Stun Gloves
> (ie Melee of 2 or more) would be better off slugging it out with
> a couple of other runners, rather then give up it's attack value.

Not always true. A succesful attack with the Stun Gloves trashes the
Challenge no matter what. It could be a weenie or a pumpable monster
that nu yen took beyond reality. Sometimes your Big Bully's may have
other circumstances decreasing Attack Value and slugging it out may
not be the best option - Rough Night, damaged w/o Stamina, Armor, etc.

Sometimes it works to put Stun Gloves on the weenie in the group. His
damge may not make a difference normally anyways, but that lucky roll
with the Gloves may do the job if the Big Bullies don't. :o)

I'll be asking FASA, but I still feel since they're a Weapon, the
above (during normal combat) is how the Gloves are supposed to work.

-== Loki ==-
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