From:	"Abadia, Teos" <Teos.Abadia@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Decker combat and Fuchi Industries
Date:	Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:10:45 -0500

So, apparently you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Sorry to
waste your time. Maybe someone else can give my question a shot? I have
clarified below, as well as offering some insight into why I think
Jyster's response was inappropriate. I will not comment on this further
except via private mail if approached via private mail. -Teos.

> ----------
> From: Jyster !!![SMTP:jyster007@*******.COM]
>
> >1. Fuchi Industries: It says "One or more Deckers (including Hermit
> >Deckers) may visit Fuchi Industries instead of going on a Shadowrun.
> >Turn Visiting Deckers and roll D6 (+1 for each point of Decking)".
> Does
> >this mean I turn to Fuchi instead of having a Shadowrun during that
> >turn? Or does it mean turn to Fuchi instead of the Deckers going on
> a
> >Shadowrun that turn. (i.e. if I have Static, and four other runners
> go
> >on a Shadowrun, can Static go to Fuchi instead?). The wording
> doesn't
> >make it clear.
>
> Actually the wording is perfect. It says visit Fuchi instead
> of going on a Shadowrun. Whats so hard about this text? Webster New
> World Dictionary words instead of: in place of. Got it!!
>
Aside from Jyster thinking I'm a moron that hasn't read a dictionary,
the text says "Deckers" "may visit" "instead of going on a
Shadowrun".
This doesn't seem simple. If Deckers can visit instead of going on a
shadowrun, then others on the shadowrunning team can go on a shadowrun
as usual. This reading would tell me that I can make money from Fuchi
and attempt to win points off of a shadowrun, which is a very big
advantage. I'm not trying to be an ass by asking this question. Last I
checked, this list has no guidelines for what I can talk about as long
as it is on-topic. Therefore, my question was appropriate. I even
checked all the FAQs to see if my question had been answered. The list,
however, has the following guideline:

"4.B Flaming
As a general guideline, DON'T. Giving advice, and correcting someone is
one thing, going off on a torque because you don't agree is another
thing. Honey works better than vinegar. "

> >2. Decker combat: Can deckers use programs (such as Black Hammer)
> to
> >attack a decker that is turned?
> >
> >3. Deckers can use programs, other than Sticky Fingers, at any point
> in
> >the game. Using programs does not make them turn. So, can I wait
> until
> >my opponent's Refresh phase, and promptly announce that I will use
> Black
> >Hammer to pummel his decker? Or do I have to wait and see what my
> >opponent is planning to do? I guess the question comes down to this:
> is
> >there a break between Refreshing and a runner doing something
> (visiting
> >a location, doing a Recon). My feeling is that I could attack right
> >after the refresh phase.
>
> THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN PHASES LIKE MAGIC!!!. This isnt magic timing.
> You have to turn your program when you use it. You would have to
> attack him during the legwork phase.
>
I don't play Magic, so I wouldn't understand the comparison or the
nature of your shouting, but thanks for attempting an answer. All I
know is that people on this list talk about pauses and breaks all the
time, such as the break between when a challenge is revealed and when
the combat begins, which is apparently (as I have heard on this list)
why you can play GAQS after a challenge has been revealed. I am not
trying to flame Jyster or troll either. I'm looking for a real
explanation of why I am missing this. Jyster, if you can calm down and
write something to expand on what you are talking about, I would
appreciate it. If anyone else can explain, I appreciate this as well.
Trust me, wasting your time is not my reason for posting. Any flames
should be via personal mail. I run a role-playing listserver, I have
been on e-mail lists for the last 7 years, and I do not see how I
violated anything in the list FAQ. If I have, please point this out via
personal mail. Frankly, I was surprised at the tone Jyster took in the
reply to the previous post, and i like the response to my post even
less. I would appreciate a clarification on this by Loki, via personal
mail. I frankly don't have time to decide what might or might not cause
someone to loose their cool. Therefore, I ask that the list monitor
take action against flames, as appropriate.