From:	"Abadia, Teos" <Teos.Abadia@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Fuchi
Date:	Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:41:53 -0500

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> From: Matb[SMTP:mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM]
>
> > > 1.2.1)Is it possible to be turned AND in the Safehouse?
>
> Ref. Green Apple Quicksteps: "Target Runner must immediately return
> to
> the safehouse."
> Given that the Runner must have turned to leave, the usage of the card
> will result in
> the Runner being a) turned and b) in the safehouse.
>
> The definition in the RBT (p. 14, iirc) specifically includes unturned
> Runners, but
> does not exclude turned Runners.
>
I don't know that I buy the connection. If turned runners are in the
safehouse... okay, here is a related hypothetical. If I send a runner
with Cortex Bomb on a Wanted, would the runner (if killed) inflict 5
damage (from the bomb) on everyone in the Safehouse? My current
rationale is "no, because the turned runner is not in the safehouse". I
guess you might argue that there is both a "turned in the safehouse" and
a "turned outside the safehouse". My feeling is that turned means
outside the safehouse until the refresh stage, when the runner returns.
Wish FASA wasn't so busy so they could answer all our questions about
being "present".

> > > 2)Let me make sure I heard this right...Can you have all/some of
> your
> > > deckers visit Fuchi and still have your Street Samaurai's go on a
> > > Shadowrun?
>
> Given the precedent set by the Z-zone, not to mention the difference
> in
> timing (viz,
> you visit Locations in your Legwork and go on a shadowrun on the
> Shadowrun phase),
> as well as game-balance issues, it is my lasting opinion that you
> cannot
> both visit
> the Location and go on a shadowrun.
>
> At the very least, the wording would be redundant: Any turned Runner
> (who has visited
> a Location, turned to Recon, turned by McDeven, or what-have-you)
> cannot
> participate
> in a shadowrun.
>
(answering both this and your next post)
I don't believe that Z-Zone sets a precedent. Z-Zone is a pretty
unusual card, and it is very specific. I still argue that Fuchi can be
interpreted either way. I do agree that a decker could not both go on a
Fuchi run and on a Shadowrun, but I feel that FASA will have to clear up
whether non-deckers could go on a run that same turn.

The more I think about it (I was the one with the original question, and
I haven't played with that deck since), if Fuchi could be visited and a
separate run could be made, you could create really unbalancing decks
specifically around that card. In essence, that single location and 3-4
deckers would be superior (due to recon and programs) to a deck with a
lot of Fame runners. In addition, the rest of the cards could be either
very defensive, or very offensive. Thus, I have decided in my game not
to allow a Shadowrun on the same round that Fuchi is visited.

One other question:
Who can visit Shadowland? Is it just hermetic deckers? Or everyone and
hermetic deckers? I think it is the second, but wording is again such
that either case could be interpreted.

Along the same lines, I imagine that the wording on Yellowjacket should
mean that a rigger can use Yellowjacket, or a runner with piloting 2 can
use Yellowjacket. Otherwise, the card could just say "play on runner
with piloting 2". Is this right?