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From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: More Questions and Yellowjacket
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:26:47 -0800
Crane wrote:

> 1)Can Wild Goose Chase be played on the attacking runners from Runners on
> Retainer? or GAQ?

WGC, no ("...target *shadowrunning* team"), GAQS, yes. WGC similarly
won't work against intercepts, the Z-zone, and so on.

I've been arranging some house rules on "teams" to allow for WGCing
groups in similar situations, but they are only house rules.

> 2)Can GAQ get a Runner out of any combat?

Yup. Or from being forced (?) to visit a Location, Contact, going on a
shadowrun, intercepting, and so on. (No, there're no Nettling Imps in
SRTCG.. yet.) GAQS will work in all the above situations. It won't
prevent Runners from turning "for effect" -- innate abilities, that is.

> 3)Do Foxy Roxy and Maglock Passkey automatically trash the applicable
> challenges even though the alarm has been triggered?

I've always played that they don't, just as skill-sleazing doesn't work
after the alarm has been triggered. Willing to hear others out on the
topic, though.

> My spiel on Yellowjacket. I think it should be worded so for clarity of
> purpose and playability-
> Requires Rigger or Piloting-2
> May only be played on a runner with no gear cards.
> No other gear cards may be played on this runner.

H'm. I haven't made up my own mind on the card yet. But it seems very
limiting, used this way; the Runner can only go against Outdoor
Objectives -- ie, no way for Wheeler to actually land the chopper and
use Drones if needed.

I don't see too much of a paradox with the Skillsofts and the
Yellowjacket; you declare the 'Softs used first, and their bonus lasts
until the end of the round, and then you use the Yellowjacket. If, say,
you had a CJ-3 and only used two Piloting 'softs, you wouldn't be able
to use them a third time to activate a third soft.

> <errata:Gear built-in to a runner does not keep them from being able to
> pilot the Yellowjacket, given they meet the other requirements, built-in
> gear is treated as a special ability.>

> This simplifies many existing concepts. You cannot equip with gear you
> cannot use <upon equipping it>.

This falls pretty much in line with the existing Gear deployment rules.
The only confusion lies with Skwaaaark, where no skill is normally
needed for other Gear to be used (with a few exceptions such as Ranged
Weapons and so on.) And, of course, the different uses of the word
"use".

> Skwaaaaaark! cannot equip with non-cyberware because he cannot use it once
> he gets his hands on it.

The easiest errata for this is: "Only Cyberware may be deployed on
Skwk. All Cyberware given to Skwk. is free."

> Multiple firearms-
> If you have 3 streetline specials you can still use each and every one of
> them, just not at the same time.

> (Below is IMHO)
> Multiple Chipsofts-
> If you have 6 'chips and 1 chipjack-1, you can use every single one of
> them, just not at the same time, when on a run you may not swap chips in
> and out of jack.

Treat Chipjacks along lines of Riggers and Drones -- you can "activate"
Chipjack-level number of Softs per turn; once activated, they last unril
the end of turn.

There's still an open question of whether "number of Drones per turn"
means per a single player's turn, or whether it includes his opponents'
turns as well.

> P.S.
> The whole Silenced Melee weapons and Silenced non-weapon attacks was just
> to hear what people had to say. I will try not to introduce purely
> argumentative stuff to the list again.

Drat. :)

Sorry.. I have a bad habit of playing the devil's advocate without
saying that's all I intend on doing.


-Mb

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