| From: | Quicksilver <qwksilvr@*****.COM> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Updated "Present",,,, |
| Date: | Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:39:24 -0600 |
>Quicksilver wrote:
>
>(snipping rules on present, but leeaving in toto the following:)
>
>> >3) At a Location or Contact. Multiple Runners who visit the same
>> >Location are present with each other. Runners are present at the last
>> >Location or Contact they visit on that turn. Runners "return" from
>> the Location during their owner's next Refresh phase (ie, when the
>> Runners unturn).
>
>> As far as Mat's take on 'Present', I tend to agree totally with 1, 2,
>> & 4. However, I find no support in the rules for the addition of rule
>> #3. You use, or visit, a location or contact. You drop by, take care
>> of your business and move on. You are never really 'Present' according
>> to the rules.
>
>While not in the RBT, this notion is derived from a comment made by Mike
>at Gencon; namely, that GAQS can be used to prevent a Runner from
>visiting a Location (and, from that, a Contact; Yoshimo's the only
>Contact at the moment that is visited). Since you have to leave the
>safehosue to visit, you must (during the "visit") go *somewhere*.
Yes, but where does it say that you must stay there? That's my contention.
GAQS would be used to keep you from making down to the corner bar (Iron
Lung) in the first place rather than remove you from your hard won stool
after you've found a seat.
<<snippage of some nifty ideas>>
>I tried to make the rules consistent with the official rules; I'd
>probably adopt a different term for Runners using "stay" Locations
>("move Runner to Club Paradisio.."). There is the drawback that Runners
>don't return to the safehouse until they unturn, but it was a matter
>that was unclear in the RBT.
Ok, maybe this is where I'm getting confused. I must've missed the part
that said you don't return to the safehouse until you unturn. Where would I
find that reference? We've always played it that if you're not 'on a
shadowrun' or 'in runner-to-runner combat' that you must be at the only
other 'present' available - the safehouse - whether you're turned or not.
If that is incorrect, please let me know where I can find those rules. If
it's more of a house rule as you say, is it a very common one? Will I need
to stipulate how 'present' works when I organize tournaments and leagues?
>So, in a sense, you're right; the rules and cards as they stand don't
>need Runner to be present at a Location. I'm looking a bit past that.
Expansion is good. I love different ideas (mine don't always work out, but
I keep trying <g>). However, for tournaments, consistency is paramount.
Thanks for your patience,
Hg
