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From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: QUESTION
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:07:46 -0800
---STRMTRPR81 <STRMTRPR81@***.COM> wrote:
>
> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE UNDERWORLD CARD CEMENT SHOES
> HERE IT IS
> I TURN A MAFIA RUNNER [DOESN'T MATTER WHO] AND SPEND 9 TO KILL A
TURNED TORGO
> THEN CAN SOMEONE PLAY STATE OF CONFUSION AND RETARGET IT TO ANOTHER
TURNED
> RUNNER WITH A LOWER DEPLOYMENT COST
>
> IF SO THEN CAN I SPEND 1 TO TARGET A TURNED STATIC AND THEN PLAY
STATE OF
> CONFUSION ON MY OWN CEMENT SHOES TO KILL A TURNED TORGO

Please stop typing in all caps. It's like your yelling at the person
reading the post.

Anyways, IMHO State of Confusion would kick in during the target
selection phase of Cement Shoes, and before any nu yen is paid.

Thus, if you selected torgo, and Lord T's owner tossed out SoC and
pointed it at the third player's Red Widow, you'd pay the 6 nu yen to
frag RW rather then the 9 for that Torgo would've cost.

In your reference to Cement Shoeing your own static and then SoCing
over to Torgo, you pay the 9 for Torgo plus the extra nu yen for SoC
which costs even more then if you'd Shoed Torgo in the first place.

I did think of one interesting thing about Cement Shoes and SoC...

Imagine a two-player game between me and Tony. I currently have 15
nuyen and it's my turn. Turning Loki, I play a Cement Shoes on the
Skwraaaaaak that Tony sent on a run last turn. In an attempt to save
the big brute, Tony throws out an SoC and redirects the Cement Shoes
at Redline (one of four out and she has a LotP on her :o).

First let's look at the text for State of Confusion: "You may choose a
new, legal target for a Special card just played."

My own Redline would be a valid target, as I easily have the 4 nu yen
it would take to sink her. Must I pay the nu yen and frag my own
Runner? Can I choose not to do so, even though I had every intention
of pumping 10 nu yen into the special in the first place? Since Tony
is redirecting Cement Shoes, can he pay the four nu yen to frag Redline?

What do you guys think?

-== Loki ==-
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