| From: | Gumbyflex1 <Gumbyflex1@***.COM> |
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| Subject: | Re: QUESTION |
| Date: | Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:07:55 EST |
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> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Loki wrote:
> > Imagine a two-player game between me and Tony. I currently have 15
> > nuyen and it's my turn. Turning Loki, I play a Cement Shoes on the
> > Skwraaaaaak that Tony sent on a run last turn. In an attempt to save
> > the big brute, Tony throws out an SoC and redirects the Cement Shoes
> > at Redline (one of four out and she has a LotP on her :o).
> >
> > First let's look at the text for State of Confusion: "You may choose a
> > new, legal target for a Special card just played."
> >
> > My own Redline would be a valid target, as I easily have the 4 nu yen
> > it would take to sink her. Must I pay the nu yen and frag my own
> > Runner? Can I choose not to do so, even though I had every intention
> > of pumping 10 nu yen into the special in the first place? Since Tony
> > is redirecting Cement Shoes, can he pay the four nu yen to frag Redline?
> >
> > What do you guys think?
>
> I think macaroni & cheese tastes best microwaved from the frozen box style,
> but that isn't really relevant right now.
>
> Having Tony pay for the new footwear doesn't sound right, and this isn't
one
> of those games where you can slap cards down you can't pay for, just to get
> them out of your hand. I'd figure it this way, you are able to pay to
knock
> off turned Redline (that a gal or guy?), thus being a valid target. You
get
> forced into paying, and Redline takes a little swim.
>
> hm, state of confusion is rather nasty...
What about the other way? What if Tony plays a Cement Shoes on Redline
and Loki uses SoC on Skwraaaaaark!, but Tony only has the 4 nuyen that he
planed on trashing redline with? Can he still geek Skwaaaaaark? I think
since Tony doesn't have the cred, Lokii would have to pick a traget that
Tony controls that he has enough nuyen to trash or a different runner that
Loki controls. does that make sense? Since Tony doesn't have the cred to
pay for a swimming Skwraaaaaark!, then it's not a valid target.
>>
in order to keep this game as far away as magic as possible (almost everyone
knows what i mean) i would have to say that you can only SoC a cement shoes to
a runner who has the same deployment cost as origionally payed for.
reason....you must pay the cost of the card before targeting the card. lets
say you want to off static, you pay 1 nuyen and then play cement shoes on him.
noone i know of off hand costs 1 nuyen to deploy, so guess what, it cannot be
SoC'd to someone else. this way it eliminates the problem of who has to pay
for the new cost of cement shoes. if this is not acceptable then i could very
well agree with you being able to SoC the shoes to a runner with the same
deployment cost or less (still no argement over who pays because it was
allready payed for). these are just my opinions to keep the game less chaotic
and rulesmongering (like magic).
-J
