| From: | Bradley Aaron Rebh <brebh@*****.BGSU.EDU> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Lord Torgo again....He's fun to talk about :) |
| Date: | Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:30:58 -0400 |
<clip Torgo debate>
> >But LotP says, play on target ganger does it not? I know it's been
> >(un)officially(?) ruled by the big guys at FASA that LotP cannot be played
> >on Torgo, but IMHO, it was a pretty bad call. Only because it seems as
> >though Torgo is a leagal target (he's a ganger also right?) and there
> >would still only be one Ganger Leader in play. It seems to me that the
> >wise ones want to prevent the super powerful combos from being leagal (see
> >cement shoes), which is fine, but IMO, erratta should be made to reword
> >the card instead of simply dissallowing a combo just because..
>
>
> I think that you are wrong here. The card LotP moves someone from a career
> only (Ganger) to a subcatagory of that carrier. Much like the inabilty to
> play a totem on Scatter, the restriction on Torgo just means that you can't
You're wrong there, it was (un)officially(?) ruled by FASA that you can
play any totem on him. I am right in quoting this, right guys?
> make him something that he already is. Not the word "becomes" on LotP. You
> can't become something you already are. I don't think that this was a
> decision just to get rid of a powerfull combo, I think this makes a great
> deal of sense.
So what happens if you send a bunch of gangers on an Initiation? It just
says runners present become gangers. Under your logic, a ganger can't go
on the initiation objective. Under the current rules, any gangers that
get initiated, simply ignore the text, no? Why would it be any different
for Torgo?
> Think of it this way, becoming a Ganger Leader is not a cumulative effect.
> Much like playing One of the Family would not make someone a Mafia runner
For once, I agree with you.
> twice over, it would not make any sense if LotP had any effect on Torgo. He
> already is the LotP. Look on LotP as a transformation. An initiation, as it
> were.
Again, I disagree, Torgo is a Ganger Leader. I don't think being a Ganger
Leader means you have "Leader of the Pack" status. I have an example, but
it might be considered a spoiler, so read below.
Spoiler
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Take the Steppin' Wulfs for instance, Seymour the Invincible, aka Seymour
Dudley Menchken III is a brilliant scientist, probably not very tough in a
fight because he's too busy creating his army of Steppin'wulf super
soldiers. A ganger leader, yes. Leader of the Pack, no.
reference taken from the Underworld Sourcebook.
later...
-----------------------------------------
Bradley Aaron Rebh
brebh@*****.bgsu.edu
http://art.bgsu.edu/~rebh
920 E.Wooster #4
Bowling Green, OH 43402
419.353.2405
-----------------------------------------
