From:	hansen <hansen@********.COM.SG>
Subject:	Re: Lord Torgo again....He's fun to talk about :)
Date:	Sun, 19 Apr 1998 03:28:19 +0800

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>>How about this take on it. Lord Torgo is a Ganger Leader. If you try to
>make him a >Ganger Leader AGAIN with LotP, this would have to be a NEW
>gang, no? Then, his >original gang (the Spikes) would rise up and kill him
>for turning on them. So you >can't LotP him. What's more, if you're
>playing me and you do it, the PA state cop >who's part of our play group
>will shoot you. Is that a fair end to the argument? :-)
>
>>Jon Palmer
>
>"How about this take on it. Scatter is a Rat Shaman. If you try to make
>her a new totem AGAIN with any other totem card, this would have to be a
>NEW totem, no? Then her original totem (the Rat) would rise up and kill
>her for turning on it. So you can't alter her totem. What's more, if
>you're playing me and you do it, the "group" who's a part of the whole will
>shoot you back. Is that a fair end to the argument? ;-)"
>>>>>>Axlrose - ...<<<<<
>
This is discussion getting dumb... Anyway to prove that u dumbness is not an
exclusive trait I've decided to join this discussion and put in my dumb say.

Actually, some shamans have deserted their original totems before.... Think
about the husband of the 'founder' of the universal brotherhood.... or the
dwarf shaman woman (Can't remember the names...) in the denver source book
(in the deepest shit senario)....