From:	hansen <hansen@********.COM.SG>
Subject:	Re: Lord Torgo again....He's fun to talk about :)
Date:	Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:33:05 +0800

>> OK.. This is my scan... This is getting too long....
>>
>> <snip old Torgo/LotP debate>
>> Again in my opinon...
>> When you play this on Torgo (Ganger and Ganger Leader) it is possible...
to
>> a point... Follow instruction by instuction on the card...
>> 1) Play on target Ganger runner... (No Problem. Torgo's now a ganger.)
>> 2) Target runner is now a ganger leader.... (Ok Torgo's now a Ganger
Leader
>> AND
>> Ganger
AND
>> Ganger Leader. )
>> 3) A player may not have more than 1 Ganger Leader in play....
>> (Note although the 1st Ganger Leader keyword and the 2nd Ganger
Leader
>> Keyword are redundant, they are still two seperate entities.
Therefore
>> you now
>> have 2 Ganger Leader Keywords. The text searches for "Ganger
Leader"
>> the
>> keyword. Something to borrow the M:tG term 'fizzles'... This is the
>> part I'm not
>> sure of... I don't know which is trashed, Torgo or the LotP.
Logically
>> I'd say the one
>> that came into play later. i.e LotP.)
>> 4) ...blah...blah...blah... x = number of ganger runner runners.... (Note
>> this text
>> searches for Ganger Runner. In the above example the ganger runner
had 2
>> ganger
>> keywords BUT he is still only one runner.)
>
>That's a very interesting argument and a fresh outlook at the ruling, but
>I'm not getting it. :P I understand the concept, I just don't agree with
>it. I'm not trying to be a jerk here (I honestly don't know, I was an Art
>major in College), where did you find that concept? the way that you talk
>about it, it sounds like it's a math theory or something. :)


Ge I guess I was listening in Math class.

>Sorry, but ignorance _can_be_ bliss. :)

Yes, but usually spells trouble at the very least....

>Theory aside, how can something be a ganger twice? If I go back to school
>and finish my drawing degree, I'm not an Artist-2. I'm still an Artist, I
>just now can be considered a Drawer and a 3-D Artist, right?


Ok... Let's simplify this a little....
You have an Art degree.
You go back to school and apply for the course again....
You pass and you get another degree.
You now have 2 Art degrees but the second one (actually in the case of a
degree it's the one with lower grades) is redundant.
You were an artist before and you still are an artist...

I knew a guy who was (stress was) a member of two gangs (don't see him
nowadays wonder what happened...). So technically it's possible, but not a
good idea, to be a ganger twice. Think in terms of agent, double agent,
triple agent etc....

Also, it is possible to be a gang leader but not a gangster (hey money
talks), as well as a gang leader as well as a gang member (think splinter
assosication like main company , subsidary company).

I've spent too much of my youth in the wrong part of town.....

>later...
>