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From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: A bunch of questions
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:07:03 -0700
---Phil Jaros <chakan@****.PYROTECHNICS.COM> wrote:
> >5) On the Amazonian Hunt challenge, it is written : "No awakened
challenge can be sleazed".
> >Does it mean that gear like Stun gloves or Sleep Spell are useless
against awakened challenge
> >revealed on this objective ?
> >This would be scary...
> Stun Gloves works during combat, and does not sleaze the challenge so
> you still could use them. Sleep and Invisibility on the other hand
> would not work...

Actually, the spells would work. Keep in mind that FASA has already
stated Objectives and other cards that state "Challenges may not be
sleazed" are referring to the skill sleaze requirement as listed in
the bottom corner of the card. Card text that allows sleazing/trashing
a Challenge (will be clearer in 2nd Run) override that affect.

Here's what we have in the SRCard Q&A:

Q1: Is there a difference between the skill requirement for sleazing a
challenge and alternate choices to "sleaze" as listed in the card text
(i.e. - Gut Check or Feeding Ghouls)? If not then a combination like a
triggered Motion Detectors (or a Red Alert) and then a Gut Check could
effectively form a dead lock with very few options to get past it.

A1: Once Motion Detectors and Red Alert are played, Challenges cannot
be sleazed. However, cards like Feeding Ghouls and Gut Check! are,
indeed, an exception to this. As you point out, not being able to get
past Gut Check! on a successful roll makes no sense (and we are
counting on people to use some common sense in such situations. We
don't want the game to become as convoluted as Magic can be.) Sleep
spell would also work against Objectives defended by Red Alert and
Motion Detectors.

-== Loki ==-
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