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From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Coward combos & Counter cards
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:00:22 -0700
---Jon Palmer <jmp225@***.EDU> wrote:
> >>
> >> Stomper + Katana + Wake the Dead.
> >>
> >> See a game over in 15 minutes maximum. Tell me about ideas You¥ve
> >got to
> >> counter this - and keep in mind the reality of having to have the
> >> countering cards on hand, not just in the deck.
> >
> >The best strategy of found for players using this tactic (Tony?
> >Skwaarks + Hand Razors + Cermak/Hive/Urban/Wake ring a bell? ;o) is
> >take the objectives first.
> >
> >I was suprised when I started putting together the UGE Unlimited deck
> >how four or so bodies of 4/5/6 were able to handle the damage. It
> >doesn't take much to beef the attack value (Uzi III, Taser, Baseball
> >Bat or a Vindicator if you're feeling saucy). Canonball, Drake,
> >all have stamina. And these guys all run cheaper than the brutes,
> >they'll come out quick too. UGE Unlimited has playtested suprisingly
> >fast. Don't forget elves and dwarves rock with their race locations.
> >Caves of Halferville and Tir Tairngire make them cheaper and/or
give a
> >threat rating bonus 2/3 of the time.
> The only problem with this is you can GUARANTEE taking a Wake the
Dead if
> it's your first objective, Stomper & Katana are within your first 9
> and you don't get GAQ'd or something like that. Turn 1: Stomper.
Turn 2:
> Katana, run. Take the objective. Heck, the other person would
> WANT to play no Challenges on that objective, so at least they'd get
> intercept. So the question is, if you don't go first, can you bust
> maybe 3 WtD challenges on your second turn? If not, he's got that
rep in
> his pocket :-(

You snipped off the rest of my post. I said this was one of the better
tactics. In the case of this bully player going first, you would have
the CoP's, STNC's, GAQ's, Cover Ups and so forth in the deck. Chances
will be just as good if not better that one or two of these would be
in your first nine cards as they would for him to pull stomper and the
katana. You hold him off a round our two with a special. Then,
manuever your strategy. By your second thurn it's easy to have a
couple of D-Day's, Red Widows, Sam Sleuths, Dante's or other body-4's
out with a couple of Uzi's or Defiance Shotguns/Tasers.

It's not that hard to out manuever a Bully Player in the begin game if
you have a speed deck and good selection of specials.

My Uge Unlimited deck is currently built with an average runner cost
of just under 4.5. Runners range in deployment cost from 3 - 7 nu yen.
It comes out very quick and with a good combination of skills and
threat rating.

-== Loki ==-
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