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From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: [FASA] SoC
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:30:52 -0700
Got something back on my SoC questions to FASA:


Hi, Loki! Sorry I disappeared for a bit there…


Ok, here's some posers I came up with on State of Confusion (SoC).

First the card text:

State of Confusion / Stinger
Cost: 2¥
You may choose a new, legal target for a Special card just played.

I got to thinking of the fun ways this could affect Nerps!

Cost: 3¥
Unique. Choose a target Gear card (except Spirits and Drones) and
treat Nerps! as an exact duplicate of that card.

Tony goes to Nerps! a copy of Muscle Replacement for Skwaaaaaark only
to find Nerps! is a copy of his Glitz's Walther Palm Pistol instead.

Now here's the twist. Let's say Tony is again Nerpsing the H-man's
Muscle Rep for his Skwaaaaaark. I toss out SoC and instead target it
to duplicate my Ice Queen's Redirect Datatrail. Tony doesn't have any
Deckers out. Can he tuck the Nerps'd RD back in his hand for when he
can get Caeser out? Does it stay a copy of RD in that case?

Same type of scenerio except I know Tony doesn't have any Mages in the
deck so I target Nerps on my Tempest's Combat Fetishes. Does Tony just
discard the Nerps in this case, as he has no practical way to use the
CF copy?


The answer to all of the above: you can't use SoC that way. As it
states on
SoC: "You may choose a new, legal target for a Special card just
played." In
other words, if Tony plays Nerps on Hatchetman, you can't play SoC and
Nerps into Redirect Datatrail because Redirect Datatrail is not a
legal target
(Hatchetman can't hold it).


Ok, a different twist on SoC. Sudden Goblinization (SG).

Sudden Goblinization / Stinger
Cost: 2¥
Target Human Runner is transformed into an Ork or troll (owner of
Sudden Goblinization chooses). Modify the target Runner's Threat
Rating as follows: Ork: +1/+1, Troll: +2/+2 (A+1) and target Runner
loses all skills.

Tony is wanting to beef up Turbo a bit, and tosses out SG while saying
that Turbo is monkeying-out and becoming an ork. I think it'd be more
interesting a different way. If I use SoC on his SG, can I target
H-man instead and make him a troll (thus taking his skills)? Is the
choice of race part of the targetting of the card, or since Tony had
already said it was to make Turbo an ork as the card is coming out, is
the race already locked in? (Potential speed/slap-fest issue.)


The race is already "locked in". SoC can change the target of Sudden
Goblinization, but it still changes the Runner into whatever the owner
of SG


Jim N.


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