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From: hansen <hansen@********.COM.SG>
Subject: Re: [FASA] Tourney Rules (repost)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:22:45 +0800
>At 04:44 PM 4/26/98 -0500, Phil Jaros wrote these timeless words:
>
>>When I recieved the Origins booklet last Friday, I was stunned to see
>>the closed deck tournament. IMHO Shadowrun is not really built for the
>>closed deck format. I have to belief they are going to be alot of
>>people complaining that they are stuck with useless cards in their
>>sealed decks...


SRTCG is very good to play out of a booster. If you throw in a booster or
two it pecomes very playable. This is because the distribution is not like
most other card games. Most card games promise that their boosters and
starters have no duplicate commons. SRTCG does not. That means depending on
your luck you can get a big bad beat down deck or a sleaze deck (if you're
playing 1st run only; a booster or two from underworld adds alot more
options). The important thing to remember is that the commons are your vital
cards no the rares. You will only play the uncommon/rares if they fit your
commons theme.

>Well, most likely the tourney will be a Starter and one or two boosters, so
>you can swap out those useless cards (Wow... A Fairlight and only a pack
>or Trogs to use it...:)), but as of yet I'm not sure...

I'm rather sure you'llhave a way to use that Fairlight in sealed.....

>Personally, for any card game, I think Sealed Deck is really the way to go,
>even for Magic, which it is much harder due to the 5 Color scheme of the
>game... With SRTCG, there are very few totally unusable cards,
>considering. Plus, this solves a few of those nagging problems that pop up
>with Prebuilt Decks (Trolls and Urban Brawls/Bug Hunts come to mind...)
>that will invariably have people whining :]

Trolls/UB/CtH decks are very vunerable where money is concerned. I've found
Sticky fingers, hollywood, ice queen, highbrow (in an elf deck) very useful
anainst them).
Anyway in sealed deck it is till possible to get such a deck it really
depends on your luck....

>As I said, I still don;t know anything about formats and such... I'd like
>to see a Starter (2nd run should be out by then, I believe), a Booster of
>2nd Run, and a Booster of Underworld for flavor... This would allow you
>some flexibility in tuning the deck up for play, while still keeping the
>Tournament fair and balanced...

Cool.... New cards to play with....(sigh) too bad I can't go....

>Granted (And this addresses a post from Quicksilver about False Mentor),
>there are a couple of cards that can be unbalancing, like FM as well as
>everyone's favorite Troglodite, Lord Torgo. But these cards are rare and
>unlikely to turn up and/or be THAT much of a winning factor. And your
>chances of pulling a Remington are just as good, so the random factor helps
>balance things...

Torgo in Sealed is good not excellent. I would not play him if I have about
10+elves, 4+ bikes, Ancients and Tir for example or if I didn't have a
single rocker (9 deployment is ok but upkeep 2?????? FM on ther other hand
is excellent.

>Also, I really don't think False mentor is that overpowered of a card...
>It's fairly expensive, especially in a deck that won't have 4-8 rockers in
>it, annd it can't be used later in the game when it might be most
>beneficial. I've foiund myself more often than not pulling the card late
>in the game when I can;t use it, or holding it forever an dnot having the
>Nuyen to play it. It's one of those cards that's useable maybe 33% of the
>time... I'd be more worried about Torgo in a game like this, but between
>the casting cost (sorry, old MTG term creeping in there) and the hideous
>upkeep, combined with the aforementioned lack of Multiple Rockers to use
>it, I'd say your chances of having to deal with him are slim :]

No it is not over powered. It can be countered possibly by LotI (50%) which
is a common that costs nothing. And it's very possible to get more than one
of these in a booster, My record stands at 3 at the moment. I would not
identify rare power cards actually i'd concentrate on the commons/uncommons.
beacuse it's so much more likely to get them.

>>Congrats on being drafted by FASA to help run it.
>>
>Thanks... I think it has more to do with an inordinant amount of time
>sucking up to Mike Mulvhill and crew at Gen Con (And Dvixen thought Mike
>was annoyed by Me and Loki cornering him all the time) as well as the fact
>that I live just a couple hours north of Origins and can get there easily
>that got me the position :]
>
>Anyways, I'll be sure to keep you all informed of the detauils as I get
>them... Pass them along, and hopefully we'll see a few of you at Origins
:]
>
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