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From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: LS Undercover and Questions
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:28:41 -0400
>Has anyone played Lone Star Undercover on a team encountering Ambush
>yet? Seems that it would be pretty nasty not only turning their runner
>against them, but dealing that damage first! (Maybe this came up in the
>first three days since Underworld was released while I was sans-email.)

No, this did not come up, but the Ambush would still deal damage first, as
the Lone Star Undercover's only effect is to add to its threat rating,
simmilar to the effect of the Crossfire objective, or Operation Cottonmouth.

>This also leads to my second question: I've always played that when a
>card targets a "random" runner (or card...) i.e. Boobytrap, LS
>Undercover, Voiceprint ID Scanner, etc., the target player chooses the
>target of the card. For example, I try to take an expendable runner on
>a run if I suspect there may be a Boobytrap so I can trash that runner
>with little detriment to my running team. Or, if I can't sleaze a
>Voiceprint ID Scanner, I choose the two cards to trash. Is this how
>most people play it? Or have people devised some other way of
>determining a random runner (or card, etc)?

Booby trap is not a "ramdom runner", maybe you're thinking of Incubus. A
randomly chosen runner really means not chosen at all. We decide with a dice
roll for anything but trashing cards from the hand, in which case an
opponent picks cards at random from the player's shuffled hand. "Random" is
supposed to be very definately different from chosen, otherwise Lone Star
Undercover would be far too powerfull, removing the chance that it would
work on his Static instead of Lord Torgo, and Incubus would be much worse
than booby trap, rather than much better.

There are three ways a challenge card deals with runners:
-Target Runner (the owner of the challenge decides)
-A Runner (The owner of the shadowrunning team decides)
-A randomly selected runner (A runner is randomly selected)


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