| From: | Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM> |
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| Subject: | Re: Corporate Challenges (was Re: Suggestions for 2nd Edition) |
| Date: | Sat, 16 May 1998 11:43:38 -0700 |
> Hey... I'd rather erratta the cards on the official FAQ. All other games do
> this. The golden rule of CCGs is never reprint limited edition cards (I
> think only Star Wars has done it and for 1 card 'Asteroid Santuary') ; I'm
> very sure FASA knows this. After all they didn't reprint 1st run
> (Halloweener Hell) or UW (Ancients & Spell Lock) when they discovered the
> mistake. They added the info to their home page & FAQ list.... It's only a
> few cards now.... But it the future????
Try Magic, for a game that's reprinting a large portion of limited-run
cards.
In the future, more cards may be added to the FAQ. Halloweener Hell and
the Spell Lock both stemmed from the same problem and basically make up
for omissions; The Ancients' typo didn't change the function of the card
at all.
Trying to create an all-inclusive rule regarding designation by keywords
or professions is just going to create a larger problem. So rather than
create a rule that's going to get further abused, don't create one.
> >Regarding the Ex-Lone Star Runner -- which sounds like a direct lift of
> >L5R's Hunter of Naga -- I think you're going about it in too lowbrow of
> >a manner. It's not like people read cards with little search-engines,
> >only picking up on %Lone%Star%; people are entirely capable of reading
> >things in context. Right now, there is no "foo" rule for SRTCG, so it
> >avoids the (silly) declaration made by L5R that if it looks like a
> >keyword and is in the title, it's actually that keyword. LSHQ asks for
> >a Lone Star card, and the ones that fall into that category are
> >self-obvious. A card that specifies that it is not ("Ex-") a Lone Star
> >card wouldn't be affected by it.
> That was an illustration.... pls look at my next point.... And btw some
> people do try to abuse these little rulings.... I don't think I need to tell
> u what game they play.....
And there are some people who won't play with people who abuse rules.
No, sorry, I have great difficulty imagining anyone getting swayed by
"It says 'Lone Star' in 'ex-Lone-Star Runner'!" That sort of ruling
only crops up in L5R, where the foo rule rather specifically looks for
instances of a word or phrase, without care for context.
>>> Hmmm... Maybe for such specific groups use the <foo> rule but clarify
in
>>> the book on when to use and when not to.... Maybe identify them by placing
>>> them in italics or square brackets or something....
> >Sounds too much like Decipher's Star Trek and Star Wars system (using
> >Lore). Right now I don't see that there's a problem so large -
> >including Torgo, Scatter, Lurker, and Lone Star - that a definitive
> >"this is a (foo)" system needs to be implemented. Usually once such a
> >system is implemented, you immdiately develop or discover half a dozen
> >cards which break the system, anyway.
> I never said about the problem being NOW. I said fix it before it becomes
> one.
My point is simply that creating an official designation system -- well,
creating one this late in the game, at any rate - will create more
problems than it resolves.
> Also 'Lone Star' searched for matching text in the title; what about
> 'Vehicle' as in Armored Patrol Vehicle and 'Doberman' Patrol Vehicle? (I
> realised this after going thru my cards) Why should you be able to reap
> benefits for the 'Lone Star' text on say Holmes but not the 'Vehicle' text
> on Armored Patrol Vehicle using say Roadrash? This ia inconsistancy in
> ruling and should be corrected now.
Keywords generally tend toward the Keyword line, rather than the title,
except with Runners (where the situation is the reverse). Incidentally,
this *is* in the FAQ (or at least Q&A); however, I've played where
Wheeler and Roadrash both affect the two cards you mention, without much
of a problem.
Second Run may reprint the card as "...Gear/Vehicle..." rather than the
straight-forward Vehicle, which may or may not clarify things
successfully.
There is no Lone Star text on Holmes, so I have no idea what that was
supposed to have meant.
> >Can't say italics or brackets has any visual appeal to me.
> No... But they do help clarify.... What do u suggest????? Different color?
> Pls suggest what is visually appealing....
I suggest not implementing the system.
> >> So is Torgo a Ganger?
> >In regards to Loki's post, the word you're looking for is "profession"
> >(RBT, p. 19). (Just picking on the language. Challenges have keywords
> >and Runners don't, but we'll all end up calling them keywords anyway.)
> >As to Torgo - sigh.
> >He's a Ganger Leader.
> >Take it from there.
> That didn't answer my question. My question has a yes/no answer. Is Torgo a
> Ganger or not?
As to Torgo - sigh.
He's a Ganger Leader.
Take it from there.
- Matt
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