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From: M Breton <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Rule Modification: The Armor Flaw
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:31:58 -0500
On 05/21/98 10:20:04 you wrote:

>>Okay: What's the difference between new Armor and a straight increase
>>in the Body rating? (The *only* difference I can come up with is Bounty
>>Hunter.)

>>I do agree that there are enough (A2) and (A3) Runners in the game. Add
>>in some Armor or effects from other cards, and you get massive damage
>>resistance. I'd counter this by creatig more ways to thwart armor,
>>rather than rewrite the rules.

>I think the way armor works was to prevent the old M:TG "White Weenie Rush"
where you just get 6 little displosable guys to take on a challenge. If the armor only
worked once, even a group with only an average attack value of 3 couple take out a Hive
Queen. That just doesn't sit right with me. Imagine sending in 4 Thrashes and 2 Glitzes
into the center of a Hive. They wouldn't stand a chance with the current armor system,
but if we changed it they would do 18 points - 3 for armor for a total of 15, thus killing
the Queen and having a bunch of them survive (you would lose 1 Glitz or Thrash and the
other 5 would survive with 1 point left each).

The problem with this is that Thrash and Co. wouldn't make it as far as the Queen --
they'd bump into too many 6/6 (A1)s first. Okay; they can trash the first one; then
fatigue sets it. They barely make it past the second: then they go down the Queen's maw.
Which is as it should be. :)

Using the new Armor rules, though, they trash other Insect spirits in the Hive much easier
- because instead of each one receiving -1/0 (for the armor) it only affects *one* of
them. They're still mincemeat when they get to the Queen, but that's just because she is
nasty, nasty, nasty. This is part of the game -- if you could take what is (arguably) the
toughest Objective on the block with a bunch of Rockers, you would never need anyone
tougher. Not much of a game, there.

>They've been introducing more ways to get past armor. At least, as far as the number
of AP challenges are concerned. I only know of 2 armor piercing effects that runners
themselves >can use: Shuriken and APDS, but there might be others I'm forgetting (oh
yeah, and I think a Monowhip should be AP, but that's just my opinon).

Tempest and Loki also deal out AP damage. I'm sure there are a few other effects out
there, too.


- Matt

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