From:	"James E. Frazer" <jimmicane@**********.COM>
Subject:	Re: Cortex Bomb with Indirect Fire Note
Date:	Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:42:16 -0700

>>Donald Arganbright wrote:
>
>>[snip]
>

>>I think You´re wrong on this. The Runners immediately return to the
>>safehouse after visiting a Location, and after a Shadowrun.
>>
>Nope... Quoted straight from the SRCCG "unoffical" FAQ
>
>Runners "Present":
>Q1: We seem to have a lot of questions on the list regarding turned
>runners and the definition of present. Could you expand on what
>present means?
>A1: Concerning present: I recently saw an interesting re-wording of
>"present" on the SRCARD list. I think it was posted by Matb. It's a
>good working definition that we may hone further (my thanks to him
>for posting it).
>
>1. On a shadowrun. All Runners and revealed Challenges are considered
>present to each other.
>2. In Runner-on-Runner combat. All attacking and defending Runners on
>both sides are present with each other. Note: I would add to this
>that no other Runners are present in this situation. Only the
>combatants are present. It's implied already, but I want it to be
>clear.
>3. At a Location or Contact. Multiple Runners who visit the same
>Location are present with each other. Runners are present at the
>last Location or Contact they visit on that turn. Runners "return"
>from the Location during their owner's next Refresh phase (i.e.,
>when the Runners unturn).
>4. In the safehouse. This includes all turned and unturned Runners
>not present elsewhere.
>
>As for answer part 3... This is what I have based my opinion off of
>when answering the orignal post. I realize it is only a guideline and
>could anything else.
>
That makes absolutely no sense to me. It leaves it completely open to abuse and
interpretation. As you pointed out, the Cherry Bomb question. As per the Lone Star
Lockup ruling, runners in a location when it is trashed are also trashed. That would make
the Iron Lung and Fuchi the worlds most dangerous places. Imagine sending your 6 deckers
to Fuchi, your opponent pays 5 nuyen on his turn and BOOM, no more deckers.

Now imagine this situation: you send Thrash to Dante's Inferno, and he takes two points of
damage. You now have Hawkwind with Biotech. Because Biotech specifially says that the
runner must be with the Bioteching runner, you wouldn't be able to Biotech Thrash.


Oh, also, for those of you that were talking about if a runner has to turn during
Shadowrun declaration in order to provide indirect fire, I give you the exact quote from
the Fasa FAQ:

<snip>
INDIRECT FIRE (Gear Keyword-This is not a card)

If a Runner is assisting a shadowrun from the safehouse using Indirect Fire, should he be
turned when the shadowrun is declared?

No. He is turned when he begins using Indirect Fire.

<end snip>

The same would apply for Deckers, I would think, since they are all basically using
indirect fire.

Oh well, enough rules lawyering, I tossed FASA an e-mail asking about the
location/contacts question. This would be a very very important ruling.


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