From:	Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject:	Re: Crash Confusion...?
Date:	Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:57:23 -0400

>Sleazing - by way of skills - only takes Runners that are present into
>consideration; but neither Razorback's nor Foxy Roxy's special ability
>requires them to be present. They could 'pull strings' from a distance
>(completely possible in the RPG setting). I wouldn't support this
>either, but I can see how and why the argument would erupt. Suggesting
>that Crash can be used from the safehouse, and not during a run, only
>confuses things.

I dissagree, not that it matters, there is no reason at all (in game terms)
that they should be able to sleaze from the safehouse.

>> It is not prohibited to view another player´s trash pile, or to request
>> him to show the Challenges he trashes.

>Sure: but the Challenge that I snuck off is beneath two other cards,
>it's not on top of the trash pile. And while it's not prohibited, it
>grows tiresome after a fashion. Do you *currently* ask your opponent to
>show you, say, everything he discards at the end of a turn? Every turn,
>every game?

Not necacarily, but certainly in a case like this, and yes, I usually do ask
to see what they discarded ,since I know their decks, and what they no
longer have access to can totally change my strategy.

>Done over the course of several turns, it certainly may become abusive.
>I'll repeat my point: Using Crash the way you suggest completely
>nullifies Electrical Challenges in the game. With the Fairlight (and
>the Mole) it's not that expensive to deploy; used freely, turn after
>turn, will simply stop players from using Electrical Challenges
>altogether.

Not true at all, what's to say you get that Crash? If what you say about
Foxy Roxy (albiet in jest) is true, it would stop people from using Personel
challenges entirely. Just as well to say that Critter Hunt would prevent
anybody from using indoor challenges.