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From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: [FAQ] POSTING GUIDELINES
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:56:23 -0600
Since it seems alot of people haven't read the posting guidelines or just
choose to ignore them, I'm going to post them to the list on a semi-regular
basis.

There are WAY too many misposts and badly formatted posts to this list, and
if I have to start unsubscribing people to get the point across, that's the
way it's going to be -- although I would prefer it would never come down to
that.

The full list FAQ can be found at http://www.coastnet.com/~dvixen, this is
ONLY the posting guidelines section.

Quoting previous posts
When replying to a message from the list, please include a couple lines of
the post you are replying to so that everyone has a context to put
it in. But... (There had to be one.... ;) Don't leave too much information
in. Trim what isn't relevant to the post *you* are making. A good
rule of thumb is if you aren't replying to a piece of the post, trim it
out. Previous .sigs can also be taken out, but don't forget to give credit
to who wrote that masterpeice you are replying to!

Put your reply at the bottom.
Sometimes a person reading your post may want to refer to the message
you've repsonded to. It's alot easier if your comments were at the
bottom, as there is no need to skip down to the original message and then
back up to yours.

Post in only straight, plain text.
Many mailers do not support the new html formats, and those that do, still
seem have the occasional problem. (Besides, html files are
much larger than the average mail, be nice, and keep your final file size
down! With 200+ messages coming through the list on a buzy day,
smaller, succinct posts are much appreciated! :)

File Attachements
*Never* attach a file to any document sent to the SHADOWRN list. You may
offer to send the docmument(s) you made up to anyone
who asks for it by *private* email. Some people pay for space on a server,
some use different platforms, and a 100K MS word
document is not usually be appreaciated, even by those who don't receive
the entire attachment as garbage. As well, some people access
the lists from their work accounts, and simply receiving an attachment can
get them in trouble (or worse, fired) because their mailbox
recieved an attachment.

Off Topic Postings [OT]
1. Non-Shadowrun threads that live for more that 24 hours will be pointed
out by the Admin/GridSec. At that time, either make the thread
once again Shadowrun relevant or take it to private email.
2. Violators will be warned that they are posting in continuation of a
killed thread. (Then when #3 happens, you can't say you weren't
warned!)
3. If after 48 hours, the thread still continues, the listowner will start
deleting people from the list. If that happens, you are free to come
back, but at the very least, the deletion will serve as a warning to stay
relevant.
Persons who repeatedly violate the rules and disrupt the use of the list by
others will be be dealt on a case-by-case basis, but action can
include (but is not limited to): temporary removal from the list (for
example, six months), permanent removal from the list or notification to
the violator's sysadmin or service provider.

Off Limits Discussions
Due to the fact that every time they get brought up in any fashion, a
cinder war begins, they are not to be continued on list *at* *all*.
-OS debates. Yeah, you too Spike, & Sascha! (Unless it specifically
pertains to Shadowrun.)
-Mailer debates. If someone posts to the list in violation of the FAQ
rules, help them out, OFF LIST. Or, point them in the direction of
someone who can help them. (get rid of attachemtns, html formats, etc...)

Chain Letters, Urban Legends and Virus Warnings
Do *not* send any of these to the list. (Not only is it pretty sutpid to
circulate something without knowing for 100% of it's source, it's
earning you BAD KARMA!) * http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html * Good
source of information on the Hoaxes (Good Times,
AOL4FREE) that are circulating. * http://www.urbanlegends.com/ *
Information on some of the Urban legends (Organ Theft is the most
known one)

Flaming
The New Hacker's Dictionary defines the Flame as:
1. vi. To post an email message intended to insult and provoke.
2. vi. To speak incessantly and/or rabidly on some relatively uninteresting
subject or with a patently ridiculous attitude.
3. vt. Either of senses 1 or 2, directed with hostility at a particular
person or people.
4. n. An instance of flaming.
When a discussion degenerates into useless controversy, one might tell the
participants "Now you're just flaming" or "Stop all that
flamage!" to try to get them to cool down (so to speak). Flaming is highly
discouraged on the SHADOWRN list, because in the end it only
wastes everyone's time, bandwidth and quota, and seldom if ever leads to
any resolution of problems. If a discussion reaches the point
where people are calling everyone names or insulting, a warning will be
issued from the listowner saying something along the lines of "take
it to email". If the flamers continue to flood the list with their
hate-mail, they *will* be deleted from the list. One of the other problems is
that often someone "insults" someone in a satirical way. This is something
that happens quite often in the real world, but the real world has
the benefit of body-language and tone-of-voice to show that it is only
polite joking. Cyberspace doesn't have that feature. In order to
make sure that your humorous flame isn't taken seriously, make sure you
include a smiley or some other indication to show that you are
only joking.

Mailing List Advertising Policy
The Shadowrun mailing lists accept commercial advertising for payment. We
offer a fee waiver if you can show us the canceled check for
a $1000 (U.S.) or more donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation. One
donation per advertisement, please. If you don't wish to
donate, simply post your advertisement to the list, and the operator of the
mailing lists will bill $1999 (U.S). The list operator will donate
this amount, minus the expense of collecting it, to EFF. Please note that
the lists are distributed automatically - messages are generally not
read or checked in any way before they are distributed. By the act of
posting your advertisement you agree to accept responsibility for the
fee, you agree to indemnify the mailing-list operator against any legal
claims from you or others in connection with your advertisement, and
you agree to pay any legal and business expenses incurred in collecting
late payment. Our liability to you is limited to a good-faith effort to
deliver your message. Reduced rates and/or waiver of fee are available for
Shadowrun related and selected other topics of
advertisements. You must consult the mailing-list operator in advance of
posting for any reduction or fee waiver.

If we can all adhere to these few guidelines, posting will be a bit more
uniform and we'll have everyone in the same netiquette pool.

-Adam J
SRCard GridSec
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