| From: | Bull <chaos@*****.COM> |
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| Subject: | Re: Why trades but not auctions? |
| Date: | Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:41:29 -0400 |
I would also like to add that if you want an even EASIER method (as far as
getting people to check out your post) would be to make a web page with
auction stuff on it. Then just mail the list saying "Latest Auction Info
is at www.buymycards.com"; or whatever.
Guys, I suggest the few (and there are only a few) of you getting all upset
about this to step back a minute and take a deep breath, and relax. It's
just a mailing list about a game. The rules exist for a reason, and most
have been here longer than any of us (Including the current Admins). There
are a million different ways to deal with and work around certain rules.
These include things like web pages and private e-mail. However, the one
method that is sure to get the WRONG results is to bitch and moan here.
If it's something that's a serious problem, yes, it will get dealt with.
The whole rule about public trading was enacted because a lot of people
wrote the Admins (as well as the list) about it. That information is
really only relavant to the Two people trading (and possibly one or two
others who are also interested in the same card). For everyone else it was
junk mail to be deleted. So we made it a rule that trades whould be made
private, though trade lists could be posted.
THEN people started breaking this rule. After further petitioning the
Admins about this, the three strikes rule was enacted, basically saying you
get three warnings about screw up, cause everyone makes mistakes, and then
your off. Unfortunately, some people apparently abused that and took
advantage of the fact that Loki has severe time constraints lately and
wasn;t really enforcing the rules. More people wrote Loki and Crew saying
:Why is this junk cluttering up my mailbox? Please do something!"
Enter Adam. Adam is the main list Admin on Shadowrn, the RPG mailing list,
as well as the owner and head Op of #Shadowrun, the IRC channel for SR.
Adam also has a little more time on his hands than Loki right now, as well
as is familiar with fun procedures like unsubscribing and banning people
from the Listserv software.
Adam looked at the list of current complaints and enacted a One Warning
rule. One warning, and then your out. You can resubscribe, but don't
screw up again or you could get banned.
So then what happened? A few people start throwing a fit about high
handedness. Well, sorry guys. You're in the minority, big time. The fact
of the matter is, while there are maybe 20 Vocal people on the list who
post regularly, there are 200 subscribers. And of these 200 Subscribers,
many of them are List Vets who know that when they have a complaint, the
list is not the best place to air their grievance, nor is ranting and
frothing at the mouth the best way to make their point. Mail Loki, Dvixen,
Matb, Adam, or any of the other Admins and make your point politely and
intelligently, and it will be considered. If They get 25 or 30 e-mails
about this, then there's definately a big problem.
But one or two loud people ranting on the list doesn;t mean there's a
problem in general. It means there's one or two problems that get warned,
and then are dealt with.
<shrug>
Rule are rules people. Go with it and have fun. :]
Bull
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