From:	"Bourgault, Patrick" <pbourgau@***.CA>
Subject:	Re: Card Comment / The Melee Discussion
Date:	Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:33:00 PDT

>>One more thought i know that it is to late to change this but I think
that they should have broke up the melee skill in to 2 different skills.
armed combat and unarmed combat. the reason i say this there are to many
runners with melee, and i dont feel that just because you know how to
fight that you will know how to fight with a hand-held-weapon.<<

>Granted, no one can be an expert at everything..... but if you know how
>to punch a guy, you know how to stab him as well. Of course you're not
>going to be an expert at it, but you'll be able to make do. I've seen
>(been in) bar fights, where folks are making do with whatever is at
>hand...... Now, I'd be happier in situation to be armed with a billy
>club, or preferably, a riot club, but give me a kill stick and I can do
>just as much damage..... just not as well.....

Good point.

Sounds like we go to the same bars :-) And anyone can swing a pool cue,
which adds that, while a person, runner, whathaveya might not be adept at
melee with weapons, it doesn't take a lot of skill to defend oneself with
beforementioned pool stick. As far as breaking Melee into two
disciplines,
armed and unarmed, that just brings a whole new aspect of game balancing
into play. How would runners with Melee unarmed fare against runners
with
armed Melee? I always keep the old adage in mind, "Never, EVER, bring a
knife to a gunfight..."


Well, the card game *cannot* be as reallistic as the RPG. The system is
allright like it is right now (ok, some modifications might be good, but
overall, it is a good system). Just keep one thing in mind : a card game
is *suppose* to be as simple as possible (does Magic rings a bell as for
a bad exemple ??).

Ok, there is a difference between Unarmed, Melee, and Firearms but, aside
from certain guns, no weapon needs one of the above skill to use them.
As for the guns who needs firearms well, I'm not sure I'd be a good
sniper (Ranger Arms SM-3) or can use effectively a LMG (Ingram Valiant).
BTW, I forgot Gunnery, but I don't need to explain that these guns need
special training.

All in all, the system is simple as it is and it is supposed to that way.
If you want to make a difference between Armed and Unarmed, think about
Firearms as well cause now, Stomper is as good with a Predator as Drake
is with it.

Alphirius, you brought up some VERY good points-of-view on this. And I
really like that card idea.

Same here.