From:	Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:	Re: Change of Plans Question
Date:	Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:33:37 -0700

Keldon Mor wrote:

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> Ah, if that is what the card says, they're wouldn't be an argument. But,
> the cards says to play when the Player announces a **Shadowrun** which of
> course isn't in the steps at all. And if precedence can be set with other
> cards like LoTI or Deja Vu which state that they are played on a Just played
> card or die roll Just made. It's doesn't say Just announced shadowrun so
> there may be some play in the timing there.

If it were done when the player announces the shadowrun, it'd actually
be at the beginning of the shadowrun, even before an Objective is chosen
- a proactive measure. It does specify the time it can be played,
however (not, "after a player announces a shadowrun," but, "when".)
And
by the RBT, the first step of that is choosing the Objective -- that's
when a player announces he's making a shadowrun.

> Either play the card anytime before the first challenge is faced or play
> the card Before the Objective is selected. "Hey, I'm doing a shadowrun, the
> objective will be Cake Walk, and I'm sending Glitz & Stomper". If the former
> is used, then the card will hardly ever be used. Why spend 4 nuyen when
> theres a 50/50 chance he's going to pick the one you want.

3 Nuyen; usually, it'll be pretty obvious which Objective a player is
gunning for (ie, that Impossible Mission with one Challenge). In a way,
CoP can be considered a cheaper WGC -- he encounters the first Challenge
(Dracoform - roar!) -- and then pulls out.

A careful player can also CoP a player onto an Objective it *looks* like
he might be able to take out, knowing there are other Stingers up his
sleeve. It's a strategy card, a subtle card, not
point-click-and-destroy.

> I think FASA intended on the card to be played anytime as they didn't
> want any timing issues like MTG but failed to realize how much ANY game can
> be picked apart. I like SRTCG because it's fun to play, and it's more Fun to
> play it that way :) Come on, who doesn't like to see Goretusk, Stomper &
> Torgo rerouted from Cake Walk to Cleanse the Hive and get blindsided and
> told to go all or nothing. Now that's funny.

In most cases, I'd rather see them get CoP'd the other way. Right into
the maw of the Dracoform (or other horrorible Challenge. I didn't just
say that.)

I'm not going to speak for what "FASA intended", even though I know Mike
pretty well. I'll agree with you -- it's fun to play that way, and I'm
not going to kick sand on anyone's picnic -- but, from a mechanical
viewpoint, that's not how it works.


- Matt

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